Clearly Andy Cuomo is a horn dog and has crossed the line getting touchy feely and aggressive toward several women working for him in various roles. However, a kiss is not sexual assault. Way over the line, but not sexual assault. All a woman has to do is take half a step back and slap the bastard and the inappropriate advance is clearly rejected. Especially if Bogie is in the room.... Except he was the freaking Governor of NY, so the power factor enhances the egregious behavior, severely in my opinion. And he has proven now to be pretty much a mirror image on the D side of Trump, mischaracterizing these women's experiences as just an example of hyper-partisanship. Nope, I saw some video. There was one obviously cute gal that he was practically slobbering over, as the freaking Governor of NY. I wouldn't object to his ass sitting in the pen for a few months. Prick move. He likely could have scored many hotties that were not members of his staff. Lot's of women are attracted to men in positions of power. Still, his Jacuzzi runneth over. Still he just couldn't get off. He's just another power junky. Just another silk scarf monkey. You'd know it if you saw his stuff. The man just isn't big enough. I have a friend that complains about the "pussification" of the US male population. Goes to somewhat bizarre lengths to discuss estrogen chemicals in food and drinks. I haven't spoken with him to learn of his opinion about Cuomo, but I'm all but certain it is a mixed bag of bs. Rock on, ancient queen Follow those who pale in your shadow Rulers make bad lovers You better put your kingdom up for sale Up for sale Well, did she make you cry Make you break down Shatter your illusions of love? And is it over now, do you know how? Pick up the pieces and go home I'm not entirely sure however that my old high school buddy doesn't have a bit of a point. We don't have a whole lot of women that participate here, so it's not really a place that I expect to receive a decent sample of women's opinions on this question, but, I'll ask it anyway. What is the appropriate balance for a guy between being aggressive versus whatever the alternative is? Sensitive was once the word, but I'm not sure what its counterpoint is these days. Edited to add: I met a Dallas gal that went to NYU or maybe it was Columbia and moved to Houston and she offered the opinion that all the NYC boys were all super aggressive. Constant hits she received, well, she was super cute, but just a couple of her stories about the aggressive attitude in NYC, well, what can I say. It seemed to fit in well with some of Bret Easton Ellis's novels....
I think we all are in new territory when it comes to this issue, and it’s probably long over due.. We are starting to see some old regressive cultural norms be cast away, which is also long over due. And like any period of social change there’s going to be allot of uncertainty, and chaos involved at first. I think men have to be extra cognitive of how they interact with opposite sex, especially when they’re in a position of power. You would think that would be common sense, But, I believe as a species we always seem to be in a constant tug of war between our biological make up, and the cultural norms we establish for ourselves. In my trade, there’s hardly any women out in the field, and I was kinda glad I didn’t work with any. Same thing goes for when I was in the military, there weren’t even women allowed in combat arms at that time, and I’m sure my job as a NCO was easier in certain aspects compared too my counterparts in units that had young male, and female soldiers, Three years back I had to fill in a position at our main office, until a suitable replacement was found. That’s where you’ll find a majority of women working for UP. The out going supervisor gave me some good advice. He said you have to remind yourself every day that you’re not with the track gang anymore, and I would have to conduct myself differently with coworkers, and especially subordinates. One would think that would be easy enough, but it’s not. It takes discipline to keep old working habits in check. He also said I should treat my female coworkers how I would want my wife, or daughter treated. Which is also sound advice, and pretty much like the golden rule. Being in a new environment, I made a conscious effort to observe interactions between the different sexes. A vast majority of the time everything seemed pretty professional..One particular male supervisor could have chosen the way he talked to to his female colleagues a little more carefully. A general for was on the extreme opposite, there was a superintendent that would interact with any female colleagues without his secretary present. Seems like it was kinda of disruptive way to conduct business, but he certainly wasn’t taking any chances. The overall majority of my female colleagues were professional, and acted accordingly. There was a younger lady who seemed flirty towards supervisors, but maybe that was just my impression, and maybe that was just her personality. Either way, I think I did a pretty good job keeping our interactions strictly professional. I’m glad I was only in that position for little more than two months. It was a interesting experience though. Strictly speaking from a male perspective, we are living in different times, and you really have to watch how you interact with the opposite sex, especially in a work environment, and even more so when you’re in a supervisory position with female subordinates.
Oh yes we are in different times. So why aren't we hearing more about how those in a supervisory role acting sexually aggressive toward the "same" sex? We need to get "woke" on this subject!
I don’t even really think I’m woke, or even espousing “wokeness”, whatever that really means. I’m just sharing my opinion, and experience. I’ve never had another male supervisor become sexually aggressive towards me, and I’ve been in primary all male dominated jobs like 99% of my life. I don’t see how your point is even relevant.
I live by a simple rule: I don't date my co-workers. Not that it's not tempting sometimes, but nothing good can come of it.
Looks like Cuomo is toast. Who cares. He's just another cheap empty suit. What is sad is that some females will practice what Cuomo did but men just don't register a complaint. It's a double standard.
Cuomo strikes me as the kind of guy that would pat a female worker on the Butt to let them know they did a good job and think there is nothing wrong with it. We are in different times now. Don’t forget, women are equals now (except in divorce court) and when it comes to buying dinner and opening doors
Are you married? If your female boss came on to you, would you complain to her boss? I'd tell her to her face, but going to her boss would probably be better. Cuomo is toast. Good. Can't stand the prick.
Married or not has nothing to do with me. I would not complain to her boss but would complain to the person coming on to me. I speak from experience -- Believe me I have been "felt up" by females, some I knew, two who were complete strangers, plus kissed out of the blue by females who worked for me. I have received sexual hints from females and twice I was picked up in a bar by a female. It happens. Guys keep quiet and the gals complain years later.
Okay. I'm faithful. As would I, as I wrote. Brother man, I'm not interested in your sexual history. I'm talking about your boss, at work. If your female boss demanded a sexual favor to keep your job, and you were a faithful husband, and telling her to her face didn't work, what would you do?
