Sexual relationships in the 21st century.

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  1. spt5

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    Traditionally, up to the 21st century, sexual relationships were games or an economic arrangement that resulted in a family.

    In the 21st century, there are no families and parenting is considered a side job. Males usually live separately from their children, and the mothers consider males for cash flow more than anything.

    So, is there a model for sexual relationships in the 21st century? Without a family environment, the game aspects of it are unchanged, but does it serve a purpose? And why do 21st century males contribute to child birth rate when they live separate lives from them?
     
  2. Germania

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    The culture is changing. The saying, "There is no right or wrong, just different cultures has a grain of truth to it". Each generation changes, and each generation sees the previous as backwards or wrong. It's a great cycle. That being said, it used to be back in the day it was great being a male. You worked and provided for your family. Your wife stayed at home, and cared for the kids. She might work part time for a bit of money, but very rarely full time. Her duty was the kids. The man made enough income to provide for the entire family. Being a single man was great, because wages were inflated and the pay gap sex wise was much larger than today. Now we have daycare. Daycare allows us to work and not bother with the kids. It's rare to be a stay at home mom now. Single parenthood is glorified in the media, "look at the poor tough mom trying her hardest to break even". Then, people see this, admire it, and do it. Creates more of it. It's daycare that's changed this. The reason daycare is around now is greater gender equality, women can work now and put the kids in daycare. Now women have careers. People are more focused on careers and work and less so on family, it's been a big change in the most 30-50 years. The reason is capitalism, and greater sex equality primarily. In countries, especially Euro ones, were there is big emphasis on buissness and careers, there's a poverty in personal life, and consquently they have the lowest fertility rates in the world.

    Sex used to be back in the day a big deal. You only had sex if you loved the person and wanted kids. Sure people had sex for fun, but it was rarer and very frowned upon. Now we have orgies, porn is legalized, there's adult dating websites, you can get laid somewhat easily now. Sex before marriage is more acceptable. This is part of the demphais on family and laxer sexual norms. Sex is fun. It is, but it's not to played around to much, and is in America, with a lot of unwanted pregnancies or people who can't provide for their kids.
     
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    I agree that this is the case, but why do males want to contribute to birth rates then? It is not in a male's interest to create something he rarely sees and doesn't profit from in any way.

    How do middle aged and older people live in the west? They used to live in families, now they don't, this is a big mystery, do you know the answer? :)
     
  4. Germania

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    I read a book called America 2050. The author talks about how America will change in the future. The urban centers will be so clogged with traffic, that they'll decay, while the suburbs will be rich and prosperous. They'll boom. The rural parts of the country will do well, as the rich will move out of the suburban areas to the rural to get away for high pace of life. The family is fragmenting as the center of life in America he says. Knits of friends will take over from the family, especially in Europe. Single parenthood is increasing, the two parent system in decline. About 60-75% of middle aged people are married according to statistics, the other mostly divorced. Most married people have children. Divorce rates are increasing in the US, and have since the 70's. The culture of hate and maliciousness is the primary reason in America, there are more divorces than marriages for the first time in our history. About half of all marriages end in divorce. People are living more and more with friends. Males want to have sex, as it feels great. Males don't have as much to worry about or invest as women, who must care for it and nurture it. A man can have a kid and forget about it. Although with child-support this is more of a hassle. This being said, the America population is expected to BOOM, to reach 700 million by 2050, the only first world country to really do this at this levle. It's thanks to immigration. Europes' population is supposed to decline.
     
  5. danielpalos

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    I just wish women wouldn't try to convince us they are serious about serious relationships, when they aren't; it isn't like we won't put out even if they don't try to convince us.
     
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    Well, sure... You'll put out, but will you pull out? ;)
     
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    OP describes family relations not sexual ones.
     
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    sure; if she wants me to. she is even welcome to claim practice makes perfect even if it is fun and even if we get to know each other better in the process.
     
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    Okay, let's put this whole "sexuality" thing in perspective.

    There is not one single sexual relationship around today that has not existed since humans first stood upright!

    There have been female men in every known civilization in every continent.

    There have been same-sex relationships during the same time.

    A number of very famous individuals who supposed to be happily married, had other sex partners and even partners of the same sex.

    Pedophilia is a modern taboo - once a human reaches the age of being able to reproduce, it was always considered appropriate to engage in sex. As to pre-prepubescent sex, that is also not new.

    Orgies? Old hat.
    Wife-exchanging? When hasn't it been around?

    So, let's get off the high horse and recognize the truth about the subject.,

    An aside, I watched the latest Riddick last night and didn't pay attention to the "R" Rating which should've been X and saw things that would never have been in any movies a few decades ago. Not that it didn't exist, only that it wasn't so openly portrayed.
     
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    Why are women so willing to lie for serious relationships? We know guys lie for sex simply because women won't put out if we are honest and claim we would like to fornicate them not only for fun and practice but also to get to know each other better in modern times.
     
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    If the present is any indication of the future, there is going to be less sex in the future, not more. I heard a study on the radio that found that women in what they called egalitarean relationships had less satisfying sex lives than women in what they called more traditional relationships.

    I have a hunch that one day scientist are going to discover the path to the female orgasm goes directly through a part of the brain where she determines wether the man she is with is an alpha male or not, and there may be something to this, 'hunch.' For example scientists have discovered throughout human history 80% of females have reproduced, while only 30% of males have reproduced. How else can this discrepancy be explained other than by the phenomenon that females select alpha males as mates???

    Let's be honest. Women are the gatekeepers of sex and therefore as women gain more and more superiority over men there is going to be less and less sex because women simply are not turned on by men they don't consider alpha males.
     
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    Correct. In anchient Greek days, homosexuality was popular. Many greeks preferred young boys as sexual partners. Mary and Joesph? Joesph would be a pedophille by many state and federal laws. In the past though, things like that happend, but in smaller numbers, and it was taboo. Remember porn wasn't legalized until the 1970s and 80s in the US. The Church frowned upon such sexual immortality and out of wedlockness, and people obeyed the church as it had so much power.
     
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    "For example scientists have discovered throughout human history 80% of females have reproduced, while only 30% of males have reproduced." Where did you find this statistic? Do you have link?
     
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    That works both ways. No matter the gender, some are serious and some aren't. So it goes. Take things cautiously and choose wisely, eh?
     
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    Not true at all. People had all kinds of sex in the mid 1900s.
     
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    In my case, it merely takes money to be able to find more nice girls who are willing to be friends and who insist only bad girls let me miss my turn for free.

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    don't guys usually just lie for sex because they can't be honest with women about fornicating us into relationships for fun and practice even if they have to get their girl friends involved?

    can women really handle being the only one.
     
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    How much confidence can we place in the sincerity of the other person if they are willing to lie to us and let us miss our turn while claiming they are serious about a serious relationship in modern times?
     
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    I try to avoid generalisations, as they will invariably be wrong to some degree about a great many individuals. Men, women.. people are people regardless. Get to know them.
     
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    Remeber bastard actually ment something in the day, you were shunned. Out of wedlock rates have increased drastically in the past 50-100 years. Porn literature was taboo and illegal for a while, especially in conservative areas. People had all kinds of sex, but under the table kindof.
     
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    how many women lie for sex because guys won't put out, for fun and practice and to get to know each other better?
     
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    I read it in Men's Health Magazine. I still have the article somewhere.
     
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    Good post.



    I like this post because I find it hilarious when the "history challenged" insist sex was invented in the 20th century....

    To those people, please pay attention:


    """There is not one single sexual relationship around today that has not existed since humans first stood upright!""
     
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    lol..sorry, but I think men are the biggest at fault in this one.

    (*alot of) Men will tell you what you want to hear in order to get sex. I think more woman would like a relationship and men use that to their advantage.
     
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    how many women lie for sex because guys won't put out, for fun and practice and to get to know each other better?
     
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    Umm..none that I am aware of. We dont typically need to lie to get sex from men.
     

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