SHAME: Backlog of Veterans' Disability Claims Increases 179% Under Obama

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  1. waltky

    waltky Well-Known Member

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    Stuck in the middle with you...
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    Soldiers stuck in backlogged disability system can't go forward, can't go back
    April 13, 2014 Sgt. Chris Peden is stuck. The Joint Base Lewis-McChord soldier is spending his last months in the Army too damaged to be the gung-ho paratrooper of his first Iraq deployment but not ill enough to be cut loose from his enlistment with his Stryker brigade.
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    Combat veterans battle an enemy within: Addiction
    April 13, 2014 ~ The first time Pearson Crosby went to the methadone clinic at the Philadelphia VA Medical Center in early 2013, he asked his father to go with him. But couldn't tell him why.
     
  2. waltky

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    The heart of the issue...
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    CBO: Why VA claims exploded and ways to slow the trend
    August 28, 2014 ~ America’s population of living veterans fell by almost five million, or 17 percent, from 2000 to 2013. So why did the number of veterans drawing disability compensation climb by 55 percent over that period? And why has yearly VA disability payments tripled since 2000 to reach $60 billion in 2014?
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    Phoenix VA horror stories: Case file vignettes from VA IG investigation
    August 27, 2014 ~ Here are some excerpts from some of the case files in the Department of Veterans Affairs inspector general's investigation:
     
  3. Elcarsh

    Elcarsh Well-Known Member

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    So you're saying I'm a full blown idiot?
     
  4. RichT2705

    RichT2705 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Foooooooouuuur-ward!

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  5. Yosh Shmenge

    Yosh Shmenge New Member

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    Define "cares for troops" based on this thread.
     
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    Professor Peabody Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    We know who won't be protecting the President if the crap really hits the fan. ;)
     
  7. Elcarsh

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    I'd define it as "Has concern for the safety and lives of those serving under him".

    So, am I an idiot?
     
  8. Yosh Shmenge

    Yosh Shmenge New Member

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    And do you think Obama shows his concern by a 179% increase in backlog of cases doomed to languish in the VA health system?
     
  9. Elcarsh

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    No, because the backlog obviously has nothing whatsoever to do with him.

    Do you actually believe that the president of the United States is the one responsible for handling the administrative minutiae?

    Of course you don't, you just want to bash Obama. Unless you actually blame Obama when, for instance, the handling of an insurance claim takes longer than expected?
     
  10. Yosh Shmenge

    Yosh Shmenge New Member

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    Do you actually not understand the concept of a president and the government he administers over?
    I would suggest getting a basic over view of how our country works before attempting to comment on it.

    Fist of all I would not consider a 179% increase in backlogged claims "minutiae". And then I would realize that, yes, the president is responsible ultimately
    for what happens, for better or worse, within the federal VA administration. It's his job as president to preside over it all.

    Spare me the care that Obama has displayed towards the people who served their nation and then suffered through the indifferent and negligent service they've received from the VA. That's the sort of "care" one can do without.

    How telling you consider it bashing when the president is held accountable for making sure such a sizable chunk of the federal government
    doesn't fall into a bureaucratic abyss for the veterans whose lives literally depend on it. Mod edit,,flounder
     
  11. Alwayssa

    Alwayssa Well-Known Member

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    Well, what do you expect?

    We have a decling federal workforce, we have more veterans who are qualified to receive those government handouts, and we have an agin population that is contributing to those government handouts.
     
  12. Iriemon

    Iriemon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    With hundreds of thousands of vets coming out of Bush's wars, and we get:

    GOP blocks veterans bill
    http://thehill.com/blogs/floor-action/senate/199480-gop-blocks-veterans-bill

    41 Republican Senators Voted Against a Landmark Veterans Bill in February, Today They Blame the VA
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/h-a-goodman/republicans-va-funding_b_5395698.html

    Obstruct funding and then blame the Govt. How many times do we see this from conservatives?
     
  13. Yosh Shmenge

    Yosh Shmenge New Member

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    And leave it to Harry Reid to block a GOP amendment (because it had sanctions against Iran, which he refused to consider by itself....God forbid!) for the veteran's bill and then blame republicans. How many times do we see this from Harry Reid and the Obama regime?
     
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    why would republicans try to attach something to the bill in the first place, quit playing politics with the va's health

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    I think whenever we start a war, we should invest in grants for doctors, once they have graduated they agree to 10 years VA service and their education is paid for.....

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    Yosh Shmenge New Member

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    Why? Because deterring the existential threat of Iran is very important and Harry Reid would not allow a vote on it by itself (someone should ask him why).
     
  16. Alwayssa

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    Whenever we are engaged in war, we need to be prepared for all consequences. We did not ndo that when we invaded Iraq. The admin at the time believed that all Iraqies, or at least most of them, will be jumping up and down once we removed Saddam from Power. And they were completely wrong.
     
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    He started two wars thats why! Jeez Republicans only care about soldiers when they are fighting their vanity wars. The rest of the time screw they.
     
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    Iran isn't an 'existential threat', it's never declared war on the US. Ironically, it's never declared war on Israel either. We should stop being Netanyahu's and the Likud Party's lap dog.
     
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    What part of poor leadership are you having a problem with? Listen to me progressive, I am not a republican but I am a veteran.

     
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    This is a Bush problem that Republicans created the lack of leadership through out the two wars are a result of this with the massive debt it created. The poor leadership has been Republicans for the last 30 years. I am so sorry you cannot and will not except fact.
     
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    Sure Doll, both parties have been (*)(*)(*)(*)ing us on Prom night.
     
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    You were the one blaming Obama so you cannot go middle road now!
     
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    And I will continue....you act as thou we are married and sleeping together.

     
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    shame on Bush for not thinking of this and preparing for it, thank goodness for Obama allowing these vets to choose to go to a regular private doctors if the wait is too long at the VA

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    Another VA claims backlog roadblock...
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