Sharpton is a con man?

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  1. Mr_Truth

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    Definitely the Quote of the Year!


    :applause::applause::applause::applause::applause:
     
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    You don't think that might be too bold of a statement?
     
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    LOL. If he was as corrupt as righties say, then he would be a perfect fit for the Trump regime. ;)
     
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    These stupid white people, racists all of them, don't understand Third World customs. No, that's an overstatement. The ones who do business in the Third World, and with the City Council of Detroit and similar institutions, understand them -- if they want to do business.
     
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    I was referring to the statement about him having no faults and anyone claiming he does being a racist. I am sure you can't really say that and think it will fly in all weather.
     
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    They're both much of a muchness with respect to personal ethics, except that Sharpton is quicker-witted than Trump. A very nice comeback.

    Now in a perfect world, Trump would do a deal with Sharpton to buy the Black vote next year -- maybe make him Secretary of the Treasury. But we are unlikely to get such a delicious bit of irony, and will have to console ourselves with things like the captured ISIS fighter, an Arab Israeli, begging Netanyahu to bring him home because
    “I am an Israeli citizen. I know that you are PM of a democratic country. You do not discriminate between Arabs, Jews and Druze.” Wonderful!
     
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    What you say is true, but the thing about Huey Long was that at that time, there was a lot of concern about the possibility of the rise of a mass fascist movement in America. Although Long was initially a supporter of FDR, he broke with him and was planning to make a Presidential bid in alliance with Father Coughlin, a truly sinister figure. Here's an excerpt from the Wiki piece on him:
    [ SOURCE ]
     
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    Well, a big part of what they sell is the promise of eternal happiness. They don’t have to deliver on that promise, and there’s only one way to collect.
     
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    Oh, I didn’t know we were talking about Jerry Falwell Jr!
     
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    Yessssssssssssssss . . . because Trump used to run drugs for the mafia and then turned informant for the FBI in order to get out of the 'deal' he'd made with the mafia . . . oh wait . . . that WAS Sharpton. But then again the leftist allied MSM made quite sure that if you want to know that about their number one -- next to Obama himself -- race agitator you would have to really DIG in order to really find out about Sharpton.
     
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    Not so, kiddo. It is your hero Trump who is a Mafia dupe: https://tinyurl.com/y3xkb9xe


    Nobody is a bigger race baiter than your hero who calls Mexicans rapists and calls Third World countries "Shít hole nations". Imagine if Obama had done that. LOL!
     
  12. Doug1943

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    Is Falwell corrupt? I know about his dirty pictures, but heck, that's practically a requirement for an evangelical preacher nowadays. He'll never reach the standard set by Jim Bakker.
     
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    Are you kidding?

    I can remember sitting with planning official in Lynchburg duiscussing development proposals and hearing staff saying “Jerry wouldn’t like it”.
     
  14. Doug1943

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    Hmmm.... I don't count that as 'corruption' unless Jerry would change his mind in return for a donation to his ministry, or the hiring of some people he nominated to 'work' in those developments.

    However, it does raise a question -- to which I don't have an answer -- about
    how fair and democratic it is to take into the account the views of people who can command a lot of votes, when considering government policies.
     
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    I have a very liberal friend -- a self-described socialist long before it became popular -- whose son is active in one of those 'community organizing' groups... I think it's ACORN but I'm not sure. Anyway, according to my friend, his son -- and presumably his co-workers -- loathe Sharpton.

    It's a kind of paradox that the Black leader that the Right really really hate (posthumously) is Malcom X -- probably one of the most authentic, honest and decent men in American politics in the second half of the 20th Century. It's the great pity of the world that the Black Muslims murdered him. Had he lived and been able to build the kind of organization Louis Farrakhan has built -- which actually, for its members, embodies all of the tradtional values conservatives love -- American history might be very different.
     
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    Diamond Pat Robertson is still the champ in my view. He never met a brutal dictator that wasn't a "good Christian", well at least those that had diamonds or gold and gave him mining rights.
     
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    I am familiar with Father Coughlin. find him on YouTube.
    I did not know of The Kingfish considering an alliance.

    What I am saying
    and quote Moi on this
    Is-
    Post Reconstruction politics is the South was most corrupt.
    The South came into the 20th Century looking more like the 19th.
    FDR with such projects as TVA did pay attention to a region
    overlooked by Yankee governments for all those decades.

    Now consider Huey Long who was no doubt as corrupt as any
    post reconstruction politician.
    The big difference being Huey passed more of such gains
    down to the poorest people of Louisiana than was the habit.
    Paved Roads.
    Hospitals.
    Schools & Universities
    Of course Louisiana had FREE Public Education
    IF you could purchase the textbooks for your child. Most could not.
    Huey gave FREE textbooks in public schools.

    Huey was popular in the South and FDR tried to hold him down.
    Not allow him to participate in national Democratic Party activities
    but limited to the deep Southern regions.





    The BBQ Analogy to Economy

    As True Today As Then
    Maybe more so.
    Worth the listen.

    POINT
    Huey Long, for all his corruptions did more for "people"
    than any of the "Professional Blacks" ala Al Sharpton with their
    self enrichment programs.
     
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  18. Doug1943

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    Yes, you're right. And it's possible that Long would not have gone along with Coughlin as the latter developed into more and more of a pro-Nazi type. Back in those days, 'casual' anti-Semitism was quite common. Henry Ford was more than a casual anti-Semite and was not shunned.

    As I recall, the way he got Black people hired for the first time to work in the hospitals in Louisiana was to say something like, "Now, we don't want white women doing all those nasty jobs, do we?" And it worked.
     
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    I've been trying for the last couple of hours to think of my absolute champion entry in this competition, although his corruption was of the Old Adam sort, not monetary. (There needs to be a word for people who extract huge sums from their uneducated followers, and spend it on lavish living. It's not quite 'corruption' since they don't hide it, and the money is given willingly, but it's equally reprehensible.)

    Anyway, the man I'm thinking of headed something called 'Christian Crusade' (not the Christian Anti-Communist Crusade of Aussie Fred Schwarz, whose presentations I had to sit through in high school assembly once a year). I'll think of his name in a little bit. Got it!!! Billy James Hargis. Diddled not just the girls but also the boys. Well, I guess the Devil made him do it. He even looks the part.
     
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    Uh, aren’t they the guys who had Malcom killed?
     
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    We had one on campus that hated me. He condemned women not wearing modest dresses, pants were right out and just about everyone else while bragging about his 14 room house he paid for with supporters money.
    One day he was ranting on a favorite subject, executing gays, when I asked if his mission was to save souls from eternal damnation? OF COURSE!!!! How do you save someone that you've executed? He really hated me.
     
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    Yes, they are. But the values by which their rank-and-file live are good ones. I know this sounds paradoxical, but it's possible to have decent day-to-day behavior -- work hard, study hard, get married and raise a family, be honest in dealings with your fellows -- and at the same time, be adherents of an ideology which says it's okay to assassinate your opponents. (I won't go into the rich possibilities of hypocrisy here, with regards to assassinating one's opponents, which I have heard is done by more people than wicked Muslims.) This probably describes half of Germany in 1938.

    As you no doubt know, the Nation of Islam believe that Jews are of the Devil. But it's much more likely to be underclass -- I hesitate to use the word 'followers of' so let's just say human garbage stirred up by -- Al Sharpton who murder Jews.

    What the Black community in America desperately needs is something inspirational which can pull them out of the moral chaos of the ghetto, something more than just a government job or a day-care center or Headstart. It almost certainly has to be something religious. We see this in Central America, and other places in the Third World, where the evangelical Christians are making headway.

    I used to work in a university mathematics department, and we were physically not far from a large Black area. In my ten years there, we only had about 5 Black students who were not from overseas -- four of them were adherents of various religious sects.

    In America, it probably also has to be something defiant, something which makes Whitey nervous. A rational Black Nationalist pseudo-Islamic movement would fill the bill, the sort of thing that Malcolm X might well have succeeded in building.
     
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    That's quite a land-mine of thoughts and I think it would be prudent for me to step through it very carefully. I will say one thing loud and clear and that is that I agree with what you've written here .....
    What you failed to mention is that he was also one of the most intelligent men who ever spoke in public.
     
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    His biography is very uplifting to read. Someone who came from the worst circumstances, and who pulled himself out of the mire. Of course, it required religion to do it, which makes me, as an atheist, unhappy, but true is true. And what is really impressive is that, although he was well embedded, and had been for many years, in his organized religious group -- he was able to see what was wrong with it, and pull himself up once again. And then, although it was religion which pulled him up, it was again religion which pulled him into the grave. A huge tragedy.
     
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    I should commit myself to reading it. I was young then but recall he wasn't in high regard when he said, "By any means possible!" His outspokenness was probably what thrust Martin Luther King into the light of 'tolerable alternative' amongst the white population. The civil rights advance was inevitable and it was down to making a choice between one or the other.
     

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