Shattering the Myth about the Trump economy

To put this into perspective I want to share the map that was created to show the 2016 voting by the FAIREST means possible where every vote is represented for BOTH sides.

http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2018/03/a-new-2016-election-voting-map-promotes-subtlety.html



The great thing about this map is every vote is either a red or blue dot and where it was cast.

Now we turn to the reason for this OP.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/poorest-zip-codes-in-america_l_5d1f44a0e4b01b834734f4e5



It does not take much to see the correlation, does it?

While there are definitely some Dem areas that are doing poorly and some GOP areas that are doing well the OVERALL impression is that areas that voted FOR the BLOTUS are doing badly in comparison to areas that voted AGAINST the BLOTUS.

What all of the above means is that those who are relying on the economy to ensure that the BLOTUS wins in 2020 are not looking at who is benefiting from it and who is not. A strong economy that does NOT "lift all boats" is an illusion. If the question "are you better off now than you were 2 years ago" was asked in these rural BLOTUS supporting areas the answer is NOT going to be yes. That is going to reduce rural voter turnouts in key districts that the BLOTUS is going need.

Having the number of red states with seriously distressed communities double from 3 to 6 has got to be a problem for 2020 because the GOP has NOTHING to offer them as an incentive to vote for their candidate. Those rural voters who came out for the BLOTUS in 2016 because he offered to "bring back jobs" are going to stay home because they won't have any reason to vote for him again.

Bear in mind that this is all factual data from reliable sources. The rural poverty problem in America needs to be addressed on a bipartisan basis IMO. However that is NOT going to happen in the next 18 months so that means that it will be an issue in 2020.

Your thoughts?

 

Wrong. Cherry picking data does not prove your point.

 

The left has given up on merely praying for economic ruination, and they've moved on to pretending it already happened.

 

We know that obama is jealous of Trump's magic wand.

 

GDP gowth:

2017: 2.4%
2018: 2.9%

Forecast:

2019: 2.6%
2020: 2.0%

https://www.conference-board.org/data/usforecast.cfm

Despite the 2017 tax cuts, Trump is unable to do better than Obama in his last three years in office.

 

It is obvious is it not? The political establishment has become unresponsive by and large to its constituents especially those between the mountains, and in the South. That got Trump elected. The left continues to advocate for programs that harm small businesses especially start ups and pass throughs where most new Jobs are created. They continue to see every one as more or less a charity case instead of people who want to determine our own destiny for our own families through our own efforts. As long as the establishment left and right continues to function as gate keeper to economic success and piles up enormous burdens on small business people it is going to keep getting Donald Trumps fired across it's bows in increasing desperation.

 

What is a BLOTUS?

 

Those haven't yet happened and tea leaves especially economic ones are no better at predicting the economic future than they are at predicting any thing else. Hell the Data isn't fully collated and assembled for the second quarter of 2019 yet. I suspect the growth will be down but not for anything having to do with Trump. Mother Nature kicked us in the balls.

 

Well, except for unemployment and wage growth you might have something.

 

So from cherry picking to wishful thinking about the future. I wonder why folks cannot just use truth and facts?

 

Trump's delivered on the economy despite the DNC's globalist opposition. All the DNC candidates are proposing 70% tax brackets and elimination of tariffs. That will destroy the gains we've made in employment and mfg'ing. If we lose our competitiveness, and Corp. taxes soars, the trickle down effect WILL be layoffs and out-sourcing. Xi Ping hasn't caved because China can bear another 16 months of subsidies. Xi Ping wants a DNC victory badly. Dell & HP are moving 30% of their mfg to Taiwan. If the DNC weren't promising to soak Corps to pay for free sh!t, Dell & HP would be bringing those jobs back home. AOC has an economics degree ... enough said about (D) economic expertise ... OcraZio had trouble managing a bistro's tip jar.

 

It's the leftist way of referring to the Bad Orange Man whose name they dare not mention.



Because they seriously operate on the level of children's-fiction maturity.

You'll also see them calling The Dark Orange Lord "45".

The absolute state of the left.

 

I have been fortunate to have watched four town hall meeting carried on FOX, MSNBC and CNN. They have been held in both red and blue districts. The recurring theme in all of the town halls has been wages, good jobs where just one can support a family of four, health care, and immigration as it affects jobs. The gut issues are good jobs and health care.

The unemployment numbers are received with cynicism. 'Yes, unemployment is low because so many people hold multiple jobs,' is a frequent comment. Trump's tax cuts for the middle class are largely seen as a bust. It all comes down to wages, jobs, and health care. Trump has underperformed expectations in these areas.

How this will play out in the red districts shown on the map is unknown but the 2018 mid-term elections have provided a clue. Trump and the GOP lost seats, some in red districts where the district turned blue.

So far as economic growth is concerned, economists have predicted 2.0% annual growth in GDP for years and there is little to argue against those forecasts. The economy has topped out.

 

Obama took power when unemployment was at 9%.

In eight years, he has reduced it to 4.8%...

Trump only surfed on the economic growth left by Obama.

 

Because you're unable to be objective in the face of the facts.

 

Recessions recover naturally so how much was actually Obama? The flood of part time jobs?

 

This article was revealing as far as the perception of the economy goes amongst the electorate.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/21/opinion/trump-economy.html

 

I was assured that Trump was going to destroy all of Obama's economic progress, but now I'm told he's riding the curl and hangin' ten.

This is not good for the Dems going into 2020, when the only economic strategy they've offered is to smash the board onto the reef with taxes and massive-scale entitlement programs.

Hang loose, muh dudes.

 

Yeah, go figger that negative and insecure perceptions abound when the leftist media and politicians shout doom and gloom from their 24/7 newscycle pulpits nonstop.

"Everybody has to work 3 jobs so their families won't starve!"

"The entire planet is going to spontaneously combust in 12 years!"

"The Orange Man is going to steal your government cheese!"

 

A strong economy IS better for everyone, but the nature of the strength causes that to vary across the spectrum. A rising tide lifts all boats.... But NOT those who are solidly anchored to the bottom and refuse to take advantage of it.

When you look to the government to improve your position, you do not have control of it.
My preference is for government "help" is for it to get the hell out of the way, so we can do more.

 

You know what I called President Obama for the 8 years of his terms in office?

I called him "President Obama", or just "Obama".

It never occured to me that I needed to come up with a codeword name for him so that I didn't inadvertently conjure him up in the terrifying flesh like if I said "Beetlejuice" three times.

 

People who say that are parroting AOC's stupid ass. Anyone who thinks about this statement for a second should realize that the opposite is true. If there are three jobs and three people, then if each person has one job, then nobody is unemployed. But if one person has all three jobs, then two people are unemployed. Getting more than one job doesn't make someone "less unemployed"; they were employed as soon as they got one job.

 

What planet were you on when the bailout took place?

 

Considering that unemployment is only at 4%, a growth rate of 2.6% is historically low.

Because Trump has imposed tariffs that are paid by the American consumer who is causing a slowdown in domestic consumption.

Otherwise, the growth rate would be around 4.5-5%.

 

I see your point, coastal millionaires didn't care that normal Americans were suffering under the Obama economy.