Should a 'he' be called a 'she' if they still have a penis?

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Should a 'he' be called a 'she' if they still have a penis?

  1. Yes, if a man says he is a woman he is a woman, even with a penis.

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  2. No, if you got a penis you are a man.

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  3. Other - explain

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  1. Polydectes

    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    No, it is not proven to exist. So there is no need to pretend. There is no reason to suggest there is some genetic contributing factor without the slightest bit of evidence.
    Dictate? I'm not talking about dictating any thing. I'm simply talking about not being absolutely bananas. A baby with a is a boy a baby with a vagina is a girl a baby with a birth defect is more nuanced. But the others are not.
     
  2. DoctorWho

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    Uhuh.
    So clearly defined ?
    Sure...
    By your definitions and reality which in no way reflects the actuality or facts in the matter.

    So by your Dictates, if you are born with a penis, you should be a heterosexual male.....
     
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  3. Polydectes

    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    So there is proof of transgender being a genetic condition?

    no, by any measure a person born with a penis IS male.

    Sexual orientation shouldn't be assumed.
     
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    As a man of Science, I never assume anything.
    I have however, seen much.
     
  5. Polydectes

    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    So what?
     
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    Yes.
    You ?
    A big fat So What to you.....
     
  7. Polydectes

    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    I don't understand
     
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    And if they don't consider it to be a waste of time?
     
  9. DoctorWho

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    No.
    You would not.
     
  10. Polydectes

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    Seems like you need to communicate better.
     
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    I think we need more then two choices as there are more then two options
     
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    Gender confused people need to be institutionalized to get the proper care that they need.
     
  13. DoctorWho

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    Sure....
     
  14. Polydectes

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    There isn't.
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    obviously there is if you watch the video
     
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  16. Polydectes

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    I saw it when it aired and its a load of ****. There are absolutely only two sexes. It takes a male and a female to make a baby. There is nothing else involved. So anything outside of male and female isn't a sex. It is a deformity or an abnormality.

    Sex is binary.
     
  17. DoctorWho

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    Hence the Mantra of those that oppose S.S.M. and anything L.G.B.T.
    Which are also called abnormal etc.....
     
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  18. Polydectes

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    Biology dictating that two sexes are required to produce offspring is mantra?

    I was unaware that biology had been degraded from science to rhetoric. Strange.
     
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    No, as a medical person, I have said nothing of the sort, put no words in My snout, there's a good lad.

    You are spouting rhetoric, hyperbole and lies in relation to me,

    There are indeed two sexes, Male and Female, and I have never said anything contrarywise.

    However, what is Normal and Abnormal or Conformity, let others decide, when it affects you and your case not in any way shape or form.

    Those same people want to declare a woman should not be allowed to marry a woman because it is abnormal, definition of marriage as between a Male and a Female.

    So if a person is born a Male yet has Female identity, this is classified as aberrant or abnormal, and thereby anything that follows is judged, even S.R.S. and this is what I objected to.

    The slippery slope.
     
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  20. Polydectes

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    If you are born with both sexes or Nither, that is abnormal. There are no decisions involved. It is a statistical term. That is how I ment it.

    I didn't suggest that intersexed people, hermaphrodites or transgender people should be denied any rights or privileges. I just stated that they are not a sex onto their own.

    I'm sorry it is a statistical anomaly thus it is abnormal. That being said I don't think it's any grounds to deny people rights or equality.

    People used the slippery slope to deny same-sex couples marriage.

    So I don't have much respect for slippery slopes as in argument
     
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    False, You are Wrong, the slippery slope refers to a loss of Rights, not as an argument against lets say LGBT Marriage, and certainly not as the reason or cause to deny Civil Rights or marriage, to anyone.

    Your denial by proxy of what is or is not a statistical anomaly is spurious and capricious and hypocritical considering you claim status, then deny others their fair share of Rights.
     
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  22. Polydectes

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    no slippery slopes are fallacies.

    What rights am I denying and to whom?
     
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    You are a walking fallacy.

    You refer to yourself as a Gay Man, and yet you use the same shopworn arguments that Heterosexuals use to deny marriage to others.

    I like the speech Picard made to
    Lt. Cmdr Data, that even though he was the only one of his kind, he was still valid, even as a culture of ONE, and as far as Rights go, Gender is within the finite structure of that one body, you do not have to date them or marry them or like them etc...

    And You sure do NOT get to decide or make that decision for them, you just do not have to socialize with them or date them or marry them.

    They still have a Right to be whatever they be as much as you should be you.
     
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  24. Polydectes

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    I'm not sure who I suggested be denied rights.

    So can you tell me Precisly who and what rights You think I'm denying?
     
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    If you have denied no one their Rights, then I humbly ask your forgiveness.
     

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