Should a woman who has repeated abortions have her uterus privileges taken away?

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  1. FoxHastings

    FoxHastings Well-Known Member

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    YES, women have the right to get pregnant....or is that yet ANOTHER right you think they don't "deserve" ?
     
  2. kazenatsu

    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So a woman has the right to go on and on and keep killing, and there's no end to it, because it's all happening inside her body?
     
  3. Maquiscat

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    You still need to prove an abuse of the right. Simply saying the right was abused doesn't mean a thing.
     
  4. FoxHastings

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    In this case, yes it is....but I'm not going to go back and forth while you deny science and biology.


    The ZEF cannot be set on a shelf and grow on it's own.



    So quit insisting it's not part of the woman.
     
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    FoxHastings Well-Known Member

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    YUP!
     
  6. kazenatsu

    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Oh, so the argument is about whether or not that is actually abuse?

    (not about whether the woman has the right, or whether it should be legal)


    Okay, let's talk about that then...

    So a woman carelessly gets pregnant, aborts, carelessly gets pregnant, aborts, gets pregnant again, waits and waits and waits... and then aborts. Repeat 5 more times.
    You claim that doesn't constitute "abuse".
     
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  7. Maquiscat

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    I guess we have to stop killing the cancer in side her too
     
  8. Maquiscat

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    Don't try to move the goal posts. You specifically said an abuse of a right, not an abuse of a person or object. Stick to the abuse of a right or you will straw man yourself.
     
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    Abuse of WHAT ????
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Okay, let's talk about how that is not an abuse of her right then, the rights over her fetus she is entrusted with.
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    We've already gone over this FoxHastings, in other threads.

    Now please, stop trying to change the argument. You are bringing up a different argument, and acting like it is an answer to all the other pro-life arguments arguments.

    Yes, the pro-life position is ultimately under obligation to prove that for their position, but not in this thread and not in this argument.
     
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  12. kazenatsu

    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If the fetus is merely only a cancerous blob of tissue, then yes.

    However, like FoxHastings, I feel you would be changing the argument then.
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You do realize the argument in this thread is not about forcing a woman to gestate?
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'm just not sure women have the right to both.

    To get pregnant, and to get unpregnant. And do both as many times as they wish.


    Normal pro-choice arguments seem to be based mostly around the argument of how terrible pregnancy is.
     
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  15. FoxHastings

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    You do realize there is no such thing as "uterus privileges" ? :)
     
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    Good thing laws and rights aren't based on what you think....


    BTW, you can be sure that women have a right to both....:)
     
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    Uh, you do realize that that's not an "argument" here ?
     
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    Duh, you do realize that since "uterus privileges " don't exist there is no argument :) It even being a discussion is ridiculous...
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    How so?
    That is like saying you don't need to argue about abortion because abortion is legal.

    So why are you here, trying to argue?
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    Duh, you do realize that since "uterus privileges " don't exist there is no argument :) It even being a discussion is ridiculous...



    For the fiftieth time...because there is no such thing as "uterus privileges"


    No, abortion is real, "uterus privileges" are not .
     
  21. Maquiscat

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    Who is giving this trust to the woman?
     
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    Since you made the argument about killing in general, I don't see how. Maybe you need to get more specific?
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It started with a hypothetical argument. If the woman was killing.
     
  24. Maquiscat

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    They have you there @FoxHastings , The argument is NOT about forcing a woman to carry to term or forcing her to become pregnant. It is about the removal of the ability to get pregnant. So any argument about forced gestation is either a strawman or a red herring, depending upon application.
     
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  25. Maquiscat

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    Granted, but if we are going to use killing as the basis of the argument, then you either roll with it in the general realm you left it, or you narrow down the aspect.
     

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