Should Blacks be paid "reparations" today because of slavery in the United States?

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The U. S. should pay "reparations" to Blacks because of slavery in the U. S. prior to 1865.

Poll closed Mar 27, 2021.
  1. Yes, the U. S. should pay "reparations" to Blacks today because of slavery prior to 1865 in the U.S.

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    12.9%
  2. No, the U. S. should not have to pay "reparations" to Blacks today because of slavery prior to 1865.

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    87.1%
  1. notme

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    It's the same apartheid policy. So there is no harm to call a spade a spade.
     
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    Ah... the great replacement theme....
     
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    It most certainly is not, but you’re building this narrative to suit whatever story you’re trying to sell.
    No one is a slave and no one here owned any. The concept of reparations is laughably constructed on all counts. I guess Asians get none and they were slaves as well.
     
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    It most certainly was. The equal but separated was totally not equal. It was full fledges oppression black people to benefit white people to prosper. People like Biden and Trump personally benefitted from this. Those people owe a massive debt to the black community.

    apartheid is not about slavery. You're talking nonsense.
     
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    Funny you should ask that. It took a while before I could get much news on it but when I went to local news they were interviewing a young black man that I use to work with. It started out as some kind of argument and he started running when the shooting started, He didn't look he was sad or anything but as if he was a TV personality now. All smiles. Waiting to find out the rest of the story. The city keeps a lot of this stuff under wraps as it isn't good for tourist season. We get a lot of Canadian's at this time of year. A couple have already expressed doubts about a revisit.
     
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    ok, you don’t even know what apartheid even is. That’s why you keep making up new definitions.

    no one owes the black community a god****** thing. People who claim so are so eaten up with fantasy guilt they will do or say any silly thing whatsoever and will never be taken seriously.
     
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    I'm not making new definitions. Your definition is that it only happened in South Africa,... and that's not based on a thing.

    That's just your opinion only based on emotions. You can not deny that people alive today profited 1st hand from the Jim Crow laws at the expense of the black community.
     
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    oh F*** NOBODY is totally equal. Stop pretending it's the 50's and people are getting beaten with sticks. If you want to give people who don't deserve it YOUR money, go right ahead. The people who don't owe a damned thing aren't paying for your sense of dramatic guilt.
     
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    You're not responding to how the government by the will of the white population deliberately financially oppressed the entire black community into poverty, of which the people who benefitted 1st hand are still alive to pay their immense debt back to the black community. You're just all for full ignore as if those people are long gone and that apartheid/Jim Crow laws never happened.
     
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    AHAHAHAHA I have no interest in taking from those who were not a part of the crime and giving to those who were not a part of the crime, but you go right ahead since it's that important to you. My family wasn't here for any of that, the entire idea is a hilarious attempt at pandering to people who apparently can't even take care of themselves.
     
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    I'm not quite sure how the reparations program you are proposing would work.
    How would you determine which White people would pay and how much would they pay?
    How would you determine which Black people should be recipients and how much should they receive?

    I can only promise you two certainties that will result from whatever program you propose and they are:

    1. No one would be satisfied with either what they have paid or received.

    2. There would be monumental corruption within any agency in charge of collecting and distributing money.

    There is already one tangible benefit that descendants of enslaved Blacks have already received and you need look no further than our southern border to see how highly valued it is: the benefit of being an American citizen.
     
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    Plenty inherited those riches to benefit themselves.
     
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    I never proposed any way of distributing. I just put forward the case that people very much alive personally benefitted from apartheid rule while others still alive deliberately were oppressed into poverty. I also put forward people that some inherited them riches while some got born into poverty of their parents because they were pushed into poverty. That positive discrimination that's applied... it's not worth mentioning compared to the insane amount of poverty inflicted on all those millions.
     
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    now you're just trying to steal from anyone who isn't black. We don't need your guilt, keep it to yourself.
     
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    Nothing to steal when the richest of the white population got accumulated by oppressing the black people for centuries. Just repaying the debt.
    We don't need your white washing oppressing Jim Crow laws / apartheid.
     
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    Here's some Godly Blacks that don't need reparations. Unlike your avatar, they have always been proud of their country!
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    Mind showing us WHO these people are? Not all white people inherited anything and you have no way of knowing who got what, or who should receive anything. There isn't one logical piece of your puzzle, it's emotionally driven and hilarious.
     
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    I do mind showing. I made my point, and it is what it is.
     
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    Ah, so mysterious and random white people will be forced (by the gov) to give money whether their family was here or not to people who were never slaves and that will include LOADS of very successful black people who don't need the money.

    But asians and anyone else who was a slave gets nothing, nor their descendants.

    What exactly did you do to harvest this insane and illogical guilt for black people? This is unhealthy and childish.
     
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    A fast amount of the black population live in poverty. It's about 1 in 4. And I see no problem in seeing a debt to be repaid. Fun fact, people who immigrate to the US and are black is 1 out of 10. It shows how well poverty is being passed on to the next generation in the US.

    You can't quote me on that and you're just distracting.

    Of course there is guilt for black people. People alive today profited 1st hand of these insane racist policies, while others just inherited the richest obtained through oppression and as I can tell, without any remorse. Exactly what is the problem for this guilt and repaying? So far you only whine around. That's quite childish. Anything else?
     
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    Are asians getting any reparation money or not?

    I have no guilty feelings for blacks or asians or anyone else. What did you do to find some comedic solace in this? The very idea of white guilt will never stop being funny. It makes me want to prolong my life JUST to laugh at people who suffer from this hilarious, fictional disease.
     
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    you're just distracting.

    I asked you "Exactly what is the problem for this guilt and repaying?" And all you got is a reply about your feels.
    Does it look like I care about your feels? lol


    "So sorry your honor I punched a guy in the face, but you know... I got these feelings...."
    Totally legit argument. I say. lol
     
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    So you're refusing to explain why blacks should get reparations but asians, also slaves, should not? WOW, that's very cute! I guess you're only a slave if you're not white?

    Is that how it works?
     
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    Indeed. That is how it works when you're moving goalpost beyond my point.... and distract that you no longer are able to make an argument against reparations to black people.
     
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    Who profited from Jim Crow or as your hero president says Jim Eagle? Who? Southern whites are sure not affluent. Who are these people?
     

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