Should government help the poor?

Trump's budget proposal makes some very big cuts in government programs for the poor.

It cuts public housing. It cuts home heating oil aid for the poor. It cuts Meals on Wheels.

It cuts Medicaid. These are all programs that help poor Americans.

So, it is the role of government to provide a safety net for the poor?

 

Nope.

 

I can't wait for the hypocrite VP, Pence, the self-proclaimed "christian" to support the budget, because, we all know, Christ was all about giving more to the rich and saying the poor are on their own.

Trump's whole platform was based on virulent attacks on Wall Street bankers and hedge fund managers. "The hedge fund guys didn't build this country. These are guys that shift paper around and they get lucky," he told "Face the Nation" during the campaign. In a campaign ad, he went directly after the CEO of Goldman Sachs, calling him the embodiment of the global elites that "have robbed our working class."

So, Chumps, what does he do? Staffs up on Goldman Sachs cronies. A foreclosure king. A corrupt insider trading doctor. All teammates of the great, white Dope.

 

Trump won because a few poor folks in Wisconsin, PA, Michigan and Ohio chose to vote for him or not vote for Hillary.

disregard those people, and they will NOT support him in 2020

 

Those are Federal cuts, the States, which are more capable of handling their poor, will be in charge. Government money will still be available to States but Federal management will be cut. Basically getting rid of expensive fanny-sitting 'middle man' bureaucrats. It will be much more efficient and more compassionate.

 

Kinda like tough love gives you in compassion..

 

It's interesting that a government in a Christian country should jettison welfare programs for the needy. Charity often seems to go the same way as truth and honesty in business.

 

So you are claiming that atheists would never help anyone and therefore charity must singularly rely on Christian.
At NO TIME did Jesus advocate any government social programs, ever.

 

Who are the poor and what help are we talking about? How much does a single person have to be making to not be poor needing help? Help much a married couple? How much do we add for each kid?

.....and according to Fox News, Uncle Sam donates less than a quarter million dollars a year to meal on wheels.

 

Those on handouts didn't support him in 2016 anyway.

Someone who works hard their whole lives, or is injured and truly disabled, served honorably in the military should absolutely be taken care of. They earned it.

Someone who has 5 kids from 5 men (to include those men of course) who has never worked a day in their lives, should get nothing. Handouts is why they're multiplying.

Violent felons, drug addicts and other substance abusers shouldn't get a penny either.

Mother nature is cruel but necessary.

 

When charitable help is given at the closest level to where it is needed, it is most effective. Federal management of almost every program it undertakes becomes inefficient and wasteful. Leave those funds to the city, county, and states to meet local needs. Every state and local dollar that's sent to Washington D.C. gets shuffled and dealt back (after the skim) to the states where some states receive a bit more and others receive less, but congress always gets a cut off the top.

 

The word "poor" in the Democratic politics means everyone who isn't solidly middle class. Poor in most of the world means no food and no home. It the USA it means unable to buy the newest version version wide screen TV and a new luxury car each year.

 

I favor more State, rather than federal involvement.

 

corps that pay below a living wage cost the tax payers.... that is the cost of cheap stuff, I accept that

 

That's a bad example, sorry. Christian charity compared with atheist charity?
The US is a hard place to be if you are not a young urban capitalist.

 

Is there a middle class in the USA.

 

Just curious, why do you trust States, rather than the Federal Govt?

 

Wish I could make your post a sticky.

And, nail it onto the foreheads of trump supporters so someone could read it to them, once in a while.

 

Fewer fingers in the pie. I also trust State Gov't to know what their respective needy people actually need, opposed to the Feds. Add to that the fact that States have to balance their budgets, & it's a win, win.

 

If he raises the minimum wage TO SOMETHING REALISTIC FOR A CHANGE and creates jobs then it won't matter.

As I said above ........... if he does that then there will be no poor to speak of.

 

It grows smaller & smaller with each passing administration.

 

I had to pick the third choice in the list, but it wasn't an accurate reflection of what I was thinking. I'm conflicted over your examples.

My late mother lived in an area where they brought her the Meals on Wheels. Then they wanted people to "donate" by paying for the meal. Their claim was that the meal cost $9.86 to make, but it wasn't even as substantial as a tv dinner costing half that from Wallyworld.

Next, if you cut home heating oil aid for the poor, do we let them die in the winter?

As much as I despise socialized healthcare, if Trump reduces Medicaid, something has to give. Doctors and big pharma are driving all Americans into bankruptcy.

 

I agree. Which is why I wish someone other than myself and a relative handful of others would address the base costs of healthcare.

 

A realistic minimum wage is subjective. I remember when I started my employment, the minimum wage was 3.35 an hour. Even before they raised it to 4.25 an hour, @ 40 hours, I could afford to live. Meaning I could pay my bills, which included health insurance, screw off a bit of cash, & not be hungry before payday.

The base economy plays a YUGE role.