Should Joe and Hunter Biden be forced to testify before the Senate?

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Should the Bidens be forced to testify before the Senate?

  1. Yes, they are clearly essential to the case

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    65.7%
  2. No, they're immaterial

    9 vote(s)
    25.7%
  3. Other?

    3 vote(s)
    8.6%
  1. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    So he was pressuring the President to fire the AG because the AG wouldn't investigate anybody to save his son from being investigated? I had to spend some time to write that sentence because, as you can see, it makes no sense. Biden can easily argue what you say he can argue because it's true.
     
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  2. Pag

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    No look . Hunter is corrupt and the former AG was going to investigate Hunter but at the same time former AG himself was corrupt. He was taking bribes from some corrupt individualls to doesn't investigate them. Now there was sth happening between AG and Burisma Holdings because suddenly he decided to investigate them.
    And here is where Biden comes in the story. He suddenly finds his son in danger and he essentially fired the AG.
    It means that Biden was fighting corruption in Ukraine because he saw his own corruption endangered.
    BUT all Biden did was firing a corrupt AG and no one can argue that he did it for the sake of his son.
     
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  3. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    No, you look. Examine post 26, which I revised. What you are accusing the Bidens of Makes. No. Sense. Your mental gymnastics have failed and they are breaking your intellectual spine.
     
  4. Pag

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    Whatever
     
  5. Reasonablerob

    Reasonablerob Well-Known Member

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    That's a cowards way out!

    This looks more and more like a massive own goal by the DNC, their front runner could be dragged through the filth in a much more graphic manner than anything the Ukrainians could have dug up and Bernie and Warren will be taken off the campaign trail to attend the hearings?
     
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    Whatever
     
  7. FreshAir

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    to be fair, Bieden did not get his son the job, his son's last name got him the job

    now as for the Trump children, daddy did get them their jobs in the white house, nepotism all the way - the children were totally unqualified

    and the Trump children also use daddies last names for deals overseas
     
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    Showing the apparent corruption involved with the Biden gang is vital to showing a conflict of law. You can argue that Trump abused his office by using it to investigate Democrats BUT... it's also doing his f'n job. Fight to keep the US from being ripped of by a kleptocracy.
     
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    As they have nothing to say concerning the case....why would they?
     
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    Actually, you shouldn’t hate anyone.
     
  11. tecoyah

    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Seriously Dislike? Loathe? Find Disgusting?
     
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    Either all witnesses each side wants or no witnesses. Fair is fair. This is the problem I had in the house. The Democrats got all the witnesses they wanted, but limited the Republicans to just the witnesses the democrats would approve. That was totally wrong. Either all or none. What's good for the goose is good for the gander.
     
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    Sure.
    Hate is just such an ugly word and emotion.
     
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    That's true. However, there's only one person I know that qualifies and he's usually the topic of conversation on this forum.
     
  15. tecoyah

    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Hate is something best reserved for the exceptionally despised or it loses meaning.

    Trump or any politician/celebrity are unworthy of such an emotion or label.
     
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    The Ag was corrupt perhaps, but he WAS investigating Hunter B. Talk about with holding money and "self interest". This morning I saw the video where Nanci stated that Trump asked the Ukraine to "help ME get to the bottom of this". That was a complete and total lie and she did it on National TV when she presented the articles of impeachment. That is the lie You have bought into. When you hear the truth, it is an opportunity for you to change your ideas. What he actually asked for was for the Ukraine to "help US....the United States of America, because we have been through a lot"! So that is exactly like when Adam Schiff read a statement on National TV attributing it to Trump which was a complete. bold faced lie. Now that you have heard the truth varies greatly from what you have heard on "fake news" you can set aside your pride and come on over to the right side of things and denounce this anti American coup attempt.
     
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    That is the accomplishment of the left wing media and their lies. They get you to "hate" as you said , their enemy because that will completely blind you to the fact you are part of an anti American Coup attempt.
    Did you find it funny that Nanci said impeachment is an awful thing and she prays about it and prays for President Trump everyday.....But at the signing of the impeachment, she signed using 15-$2000 gold embossed pens funded by American taxpayers. The sh*& eating grin on her face was unmistakable as she handed out the souvenirs. All the while President Trump signed a several billion dollar deal with China using a $1,98 Sharpie. You tell me.....who are the elitists here?
     
  18. Moonglow

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    The Trumpets are so scared they feel the need to pull a Hitler when on trial...Hitler turned his trial about his putsch into a nationalistic endeavor in which the govt. was to blame for what he did and since Trump is such an admirer of Hitler he feels the need to do the same in his trial and his little butt kissers have taken it upon themselves to do Trump's bidding and devolve the trial into a blame game on the Biden's for what Trump did.....

    I laugh at the dittoheads..
     
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    Typical, predictable (tiresome, and wearisome) liberal Democrat deflection, conjecture, and irrelevancies....

    You KNOW that ol' Joe didn't get his cocaine-huffing, bust-out child that job in Burisma? You KNOW that? The EVIDENCE (i.e., getting $83K/month to do NOTHING), along with ol' Joe's lack of subtlety in dealing with the Ukrainian oligarchs strongly suggests otherwise.... Moreover, none of this has anything to do with any of Donald Trump or his family -- but the Left's lib-agenda suggests that you drag them into the Biden scandal... a well-known, low-brow "what-about" deflection tactic that involves nothing with the issue at hand -- BIDEN.

    Want to know some specifics about Hunter Biden, ipsum, that are well-documented FACTS? Take as long as necessary....
    Link: https://www.conservapedia.com/Hunter_Biden
     
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  21. Moonglow

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    You just used a quote from John Tisdale yet did not footnote it or use a link which means you plagiarized it.
     
  22. Moonglow

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    Drew Hammill, Pelosi’s deputy chief of staff, told us that the pens Pelosi used to sign the articles of impeachment cost just under $15 a piece, and that they were the same type of pen used to sign other pieces of legislation. At $15 a piece, that means the total cost for these pens was about $450, well under the $15,000 (or $450,000) amount claimed in those baseless social media posts.
    https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/impeachment-pens-15k-dollars/
     
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    ~ Can anyone really trust Drew Hammill ...?
     
  24. Moonglow

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    Just as much as we can or can't trust John Tisdale when he claims the prices of the pens. I doubt very seriously the pens were as expensive as the Republican claims though since I know how much engraved pens cost.
     
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    If Trump wants to look like a dork and sign agreements with a Sharpie then let him..
     

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