Should Obama shut up?

Discussion in 'Opinion POLLS' started by Robert, Jul 14, 2017.

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Should Obama shut up?

Poll closed Oct 12, 2017.
  1. Yes, the man is a civilian

    59.3%
  2. Actually, as a civilian he needs to keep this nonsense up

    7.4%
  3. He can't be stopped

    14.8%
  4. Get Kathy Griffin to hang his head and discuss

    18.5%
  1. Arjay51

    Arjay51 Well-Known Member

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    How about your entire presentation as an example.
     
  2. Arjay51

    Arjay51 Well-Known Member

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    Are you leaving? That would be a nice day.

    See, more truth.
     
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    Arjay51 Well-Known Member

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    Aw, the reaction of a democrat. Make false accusation, try to denigrate any who dare to dispute them and call them names.

    You are a democrat, just a shamed to admit it.
     
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    Ostap Bender Well-Known Member

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    As most of carrier politicians Obama is a Freemason and surely a member of a secret loge.
    No one can prohibit a Freemason to speak with other Freemason.
    Firstly the politically system shall be changed.
     
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    btthegreat Well-Known Member

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    No link? then you have nothing but opinions and lies to back up your position. The word for that is 'hypocrisy'.
     
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    Arjay51 Well-Known Member

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    When you provide no proof of your stance on this subject, it is called hypocrisy.
     
  7. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    My first wife's aunt married a Freemason. We chatted over this. Me and Ben. Ben allayed my fears of the Freemasons.

    Why do you suppose they chose the name "freemason"?
     
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    It's been tradition for former presidents not criticize the new president. In other words keeping quiet when it comes to policy unless asked for advice by the new president. Now visiting other countries, a lot of former presidents have done exactly that. As a courtesy they usually have a meeting with the head of state of what ever country they are visiting. Even Nixon went to Moscow after he resigned. That is not unusual.

    These other countries know who is the head of state of the present. Being nice to a former head of state is diplomatically expected.
     
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    Ostap Bender Well-Known Member

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    There are many versions.
     
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    No it is not. It is just an unproven claim based on nothing more than' opinions and lies' ( using your phrase) Hypocrisy is when you call out someone else for not offering any more than opinions and lies, and then refuse to offer more than opinions and lies for your claims. Got it? .
     
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    Obama has been a fraud since college. He should be sent to the wilderness to repent.
     
  12. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Obama is raking in the cash overseas. Gives him plenty of money for private jets. Will Democrats call for his taxes to be public?
     
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    Obama isn't President any more
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So like the rotted fish, he is gone?
     
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    Obama likes the sound of his own voice too much to ever keep quiet. Lol! ;)
     
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    gamewell45 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No one forces you nor anyone else to listen to what he says; if people choose to listen to him, what's the big deal anyhow??
     
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    No it is not. It is just an unproven claim based on nothing more than' opinions and lies' ( using your phrase) Hypocrisy is when you call out someone else for not offering any more than opinions and lies, and then refuse to offer more than opinions and lies for your claims like you did when your refused to document how Obama's travel arrangements follow Trump.. Got it? Now document your claim, or admit it was based on opinions or lies. As for me, I am going by your own rules of engagement that you set forth above thread. My claim, I have already proven, thanks to your own words.
     
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    Which is exactly what you do. Shot yourself in the foot again. Got it?
     
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    You have "proven" nothing other than that you refuse to consider that someone other than you has a truth to tell.

    You have totally fulfilled your own definition of hypocrisy down to the last detail. The fact that you refuse to acknowledge your own failure says more about you than anyone else could possibly say.

    You refusal to do any research on your own incase that it proves you to be a fanboy of Obama is very telling also. You only accept what others tell you if it fits your bias. A typical democrat.
     
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    Its not my job to find evidence for your claim, it is your job to back up what you say. Otherwise someone will just say its just opinion and lies. I do not insist you do a google search to find out if my claim is solid. Instead, if I get asked for a link to prove a fact, I provide one.
     
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    Since you wish to deny all points of my post, it is indeed your job to provide proof of your position or be labeled a liar.
     
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    Obama can say what ever he wants it's his right to free speech. That's all that really matters here to me as he really can't do more than stir some people up.
     
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    So you claim that it is hypocrisy to call out hypocrisy?

    Dude, get back on your meds.
     
  24. btthegreat

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    I think you are being disingenuous and trolling me. You do not want to provide links for what you assert( you want us to 'look it up'), but you tell others that they are liars, if they do not provide links or sources for you. Who's responisibility is it to prove an assertion that you make, like an assertion about Obama's travel itinerary ?
     
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    You are making what you think{?} is a valid argument but you have nothing to back it up and keep dodging requests to provide what you claim as truth.

    This would indicate either a liar or a fool. You ignore anything that proves you to be wrong, any assertion made. Yet you do not want to provide any proof that they are not true, just keep making the claim. That says a lot about you and your bias base.
     

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