Should people be allowed to have large families?

Capitalism is not working here in the U.S. due to NAFTA allowing corporations to leave the country for cheaper labor. The consequences of this is there are millions of jobs that only required a High School education are now gone. Those jobs were not minimum wage jobs and allowed that population to still achieve the American dream of owning a home and send their children off to college.

Now if our population had not increased or been reduced this situation would not have increased the number of people in poverty above the normal levels compared to the numbers in the past. The existing population that did not increase could have adjusted by getting a additional job to make up the difference in income.

Of course that would have been an idealistic situation. Our population increased not only by its native born population growth but also by our government allowing massive amounts of immigration to live here to compete with native born higher paying occupations. This reduced any chance for those that lost their job that moved out of the country if they decided to go back to school for a higher education. The educated new immigrants took that away from them.

The result is now we have a higher population that now live in poverty and many of them have higher education but no jobs available in their field so they are competing for minimum wage jobs that in the past were the population that were young and inexperienced. This is why raising the minimum wage is a top issue in today's environment. The government wants to support higher minimum wage because those people will no longer qualify for Medicaid and that is their only true motive for supporting it.

I can only provide the source of these problems. To solve it, it would take American born citizens to unite together on a national level to solve how to fix it and I don't see that every happening as people are too dishonest for them to unite in the first place.

 

Depends on the country Japan needs a good number of more babies so for them a large family would be a fine idea, for countries with to many people to support then no they shouldn't have large families but children especially boys are the future support for elderly parents so I can't blame them for doing what they must do.

 

That is capitalism. Socialism is regulation that infringes upon market based transactions.

I believe it is just lousy public policies, like our War on Drugs, that does nothing to promote the general welfare, and is merely a boondoggle and generational form of theft.

And, why burden Labor as the least wealthy with Capitalism's natural rate of unemployment. We should be solving for the capital effects of capitalism's natural rate of unemployment, on an at-will basis in our at-will employment States, and at the rock bottom cost of a form of minimum wage.

 

The war on drugs doesn't benefit the tax payers but it does benefit federal, state and local government. The government would shrink immensely if not for the war on drugs. Our government could eliminate all drugs coming into this country if they really wanted to but they don't because one for the reason I stated above and two our prisons would be virtually empty.

 

Is it just the fantastical, right wing that wants lower taxes and to build more prisons, at the same time?

 

Should this one have been sterilised?

"Newcastle mother has had 17 children taken into care in last 30 years"

I say 'yes', and sterilised with extreme prejudice! Those poor kids - as if life isn't difficult enough.

https://www.theguardian.com/society...ren-taken-into-care-project-reduce-numbers-uk

 

My grandparents were only children on both sides of their respective families and they had 13 kids..

Yea, people should and CAN have as many kids as they want as long as they can support them and anyone who even questions it is wondering down the wrong path.

There is no global population problem - that is a myth.... 90% of earths land is vacant, not only that but we could fit the entire worlds population in a city the size of Texas do you know that? Texas.

 

1. And if they CAN'T support them?

2. Based upon that, the Sahara desert could fit another 90+ billion.

 

Well, that is an issue, an immoral issue. There are plenty of mothers out there having kids for extra welfare money, that or they refuse to use protection or a just whores and that is a big problem and if you ask me those kids should be taken away and given to families that want kids but cant have them.

As far as the desert, we that could easily be terraformed but Africa is dangerous and given the wars it would be almost impossible to do so in a state of war.

 

hypothetically and in that alternative, what if the US built cities in more ideal locations and relocate the homeless and population from areas that are, or are becoming less safe, due to environmental concerns that are currently beyond our technology. Just socialism bailing out capitalism, like usual?

 

I believe more in equal protection of the law regarding the concept of employment at will; at a hypothetical unemployment compensation wage of fourteen dollars an hour. Because, it competes favorably with welfare. With a minimum wage for work, at fifteen dollars an hour.

We could be lowering our tax burden and improving the efficiency of our economy at the same time.

 

And that would kill jobs, businesses would go automated and they're nearly ready to do that as it is.

Hell, Obama already killed the concept of "full time job" with Obamacare and this 15/hr crap will just kill more jobs.

Do you really want to pay 11.99 for a value meal from McDonalds (for example)? or 10 bucks for a Starbucks coffee?

 

dude, why should labor have to care about jobs, Capitalists are the ones making a profit, not merely wages for establishing business ventures. Labor should be able to collect unemployment compensation simply for being unemployed in our at-will employment State.

Where are you getting your numbers from? The last time I checked, wages are only about one quarter of all costs. So, expect around a ten cent to twenty-five cent bump in prices. Not anywhere near enough to erase gains from the new wage rate.

 

You do realize many businesses take losses year in and year out? just because you own a business doesn't mean you make a profit..... Oh and overhead is about 70% of operating costs...

If it matters employees at a small business are guaranteed a wage but the business owner is NOT.... More often than not the employee makes more than the damn owner...

You see, the fundamental flaw anti-capitalists have is they actually believe all businesses are profitable and all business owners are rich - guess what? 90% of small business fail in the first 3 years and the other 10% don't see profits until 5-7 years down the road......

14 bucks an hour is absolute nonsense - it's not even realistic... It's stupid.

Oh and what does the guy make who worked his way up to 14 bucks an hour make in your world? 20 bucks an hour?

And I haven't even addressed inflation yet....

 

You do realize that there is a "natural rate of unemployment" and many people are already unemployed or become unemployed merely due to structural forms of unemployment, accomplished merely for the bottom. Corporate raiding is one example.

Yes, we already have minimum wage laws. And, owners not making enough profit, is a fact of life under any form of capitalism. How often does it happen that owners make less than employees, after regular compensation and profits.

You see, the fundamental flaw alleged capitalists have, is that they only believe in "capital Darwinism" when it only affects the least wealthy with any natural rate of unemployment. Businesses fail all the time. So what if businesses fail if they could Only make it, on the back of cheap labor, not better products and better services.

Fourteen dollars an hour for unemployment compensation competes favorably with the hourly equivalent cost of social services. It is not "absurd" but conforms to rational choice thoery, unlike our current regime of "wage slavery".

Yes, I did address inflation in a previous post. You are simply clueless and Causeless.

 

I agree, it is STUPID to raise minimum wage to $15, a much better idea is combine public housing high rise buildings with jobs and schooling, Coop supermarkets with low prices, and you have to work for everything, low taxes, lots of different indoor Agriculture and Aquaculture worked in, everything self sustaining.

 

Actually 1/3 of the land surface is inhabitable, 1/3 is already used for agricultural and nearly the last 1/3 is human development. Unless you want to live in the Sahara Desert, we're getting pretty full.


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No it's not......

Have you ever been to the Midwest? South America?

BTW, 80% of land is habitable.... Las Vegas is a perfect example of people living in the desert.

 

Ya in a country with adequate plumbing and water. Would that work in third world countries? I have been the Midwest and the open land there is farmed. Only 2% of our North American grasslands remain. It's an ecosystem more endangered than the Amazon rain forest. I've also been to Costa Rica and Nepal recently. The mountains of Nepal are terraced to grow food. You have to take into account the land required to grow food for each person too. Drive through the Midwest as you suggest, it's all corn and alfalfa fields.


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Wait a minute, in your very first post that started this thread, you said specifically you wanted to keep the conversation to the Western World.

 

I did, but Mr. Nick brought up South America. I was simply responding that I have been to Central America and Asia. Parts that are quite crowded if I might add.


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We grow plenty of food in our backyard. More than we can use. We give much of it away to our friends, family, and neighbors.

Get government out of the business of regulating human reproduction, land management, farm production, and many other areas that interfere with man's personal freedoms of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

The latest government scam proposal is to sell carbon dioxide certificates to businesses. Time to end government subsidies on corn, oil, solar, wind, automobiles, and anything else where they can manipulate the outcome. Market forces can drive industry to provide those goods and services that consumers desire. Get rid of the crony corporatists who plot with the statist media and the US would be a better place.

Go forth and multiply. All lives matter, therefore unborn lives matter. This Oklahoma law maker might be on to something : Oklahoma lawmaker writes bill requiring man's permission for abortion, calls women 'hosts'

It's past due for the leftist elite to recognize the most endangered ecosystem is the pro-abortionist's womb.

 

How about a law requiring sterilization of both father and mother of a child who requires government assistance for their needs and/or the needs of the child?

 

Freedom, by it's nature and intended reasoning, is gone when a society or government can dictate how many children you are allowed to have. Even with such laws, the blood of the warrior will prevail and those that cower to oppression or bend to morbid reasoning will die off.