Should people who have lost their job due to COVID, unable to pay rent, be evicted?

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Should people who have lost their job due to COVID, unable to pay rent, be evicted?

  1. Yes - Anyone who cant pay should be evicted

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  2. No - This is an unprecedented crisis, and allowances must be made.

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  3. Other - Please explain below.

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  1. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    The government should step in and pay the rents for everyone

    They'll get the money from the same place a decades long bankrupt country got the funds to fight WWII

    And please don't say we fought WWII with War Bonds. Nobody had any money to buy FOOD in 1939, let alone war bonds
     
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    Should people who have lost their job due to COVID, unable to pay rent, be evicted?
    * No - This is an unprecedented crisis, and allowances must be made.

    Times are bad. Very, very bad. That, and this problem of being evicted for lack of money, shows how there is a lack of subsidized housing. If there were ever an argument for adding more high-density housing, this is it.
     
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    The problem is of course that terminating the lease and kicking out the previous tenant doesn't mean the landlord will automatically get someone else to take the lease. A recession/depression is a recession/depression regardless of the cause. If the current tenant can't pay why would you expect a long line of eager potential tenants who can? The odds are the landlord will be no better off either way. If the landlord is absolutely confident he can put someone else in who will make the rent ? No problem. But how likely is that?

    I would suggest the key issue is whether the occupant is a 'good' tenant or not. Have they always previously paid on time yes/no? Do they keep the place neat and tidy yes/no? Are they demanding regarding maintenance yes/no? Do they do little things around the place with you permission off their own bat or insist you you come over immediately to fix every little thing asap? From experience if you get a good tenant then you have an unrealized asset. As a landlord you might be better off keeping them there rent free for as long as you can rather than kicking them out and taking a risk with the first person who says they will take it.
     
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    You also agree that in the unprecedented crisis you should be forced to allow people to live in your home with you for free, correct?
     
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    No. I would expect Congress to provide me some $$$$ funding to ride out the storm that is the coronavirus pandemic.

    Or at least put a hold on the mortgage so I don't lose my property until I can get more funding in.
     
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    Having never been a landlord myself, I can't really say what would be better... but if the Denver/Boulder/Colorado Springs corridor is anything to judge by, there's LOTS of people who are just chomping-at-the-bit to find a nice apartment to rent or lease.

    Rents here in Colorado, generally, have been skyrocketing for several years now. I can't imagine that any landlord in this area would have any trouble renting any apartment, as long as it's not some roach-crawling dump in one of the "ganglands" that contaminate these areas....

    You want to stay WAY out of Aurora (on the eastern side of Denver) and anywhere in the southeastern quadrant of Colorado Springs -- if you value your life.... :machinegun:

    Aside from that, life is good -- and for renters, it's expensive!
     
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    Why can't they set up a system like they did for businesses? Business owners and companies were required to keep their staff and pay them in order to obtain financial assistance. Some took advantage of it and laid off their employees anyway and had to return the money, but I'm talking about all the ethical people that used the money to keep their workers on payroll.

    Using that, why can't they set up a system whereby renters and mortgage holders have to prove they have used the money for it's intended purpose? Anyone not doing so will not receive further benefits (stimulus checks or unemployment or anything else they may qualify for). It seems better than just paying people to sit around waiting on the next influx of money while doing nothing to improve their chances of getting back into the workplace.

    Would something like that be workable?
     
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    How about a system where ALL people, businesses, and organizations PLAN and PREPARE for the eventual occurrence of disruptive forces in lives and in business and have things like SAVINGS to pay for problems when they occur?

    Why has it become an expectation that GOVERNMENT and some damned central bank (the Federal Reserve System) has to come rushing in with bales of freshly-'printed' money, authorized by some klatsch of wet-dream 'economists', to rescue all these people who are completely IRRESPONSIBLE?! :nerd:

    We are now a nation of totally-dependent, ignorant, helpless ADULT-CHILDREN, and our adversaries in the world await our final decline and fall with a smile on their faces!

    [​IMG]. "Just got word that Biden leads Trump by 12 points in the polls!"
     
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    And the decision whether to keep or evict the tenant should be left to the owner of the property - not to the government.
     
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    :applause::applause::applause::applause:

    No kidding. Why are so many people so ignorant that they don't even know what a sound and responsible personal financial plan is? Boggles my mind. I can understand that someone who is under 30 years old may not have at minimum 6 months living expenses in liquid investments because they haven't necessarily had time to achieve that. But the average person who is over 30 years old should be there, and if not, they have no one to blame but their poor life decisions.

    Oh... and you know that full-on socialist democracy type systems are coming to a neighborhood near you when even the so-called "conservatives" are pushing for all manner of tax-payer funded bail-outs and liberty-usurping, over-reaching governmental mandates.
     
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    I was quite poor at one time back in the early '60's when there were no 'welfare' programs. It taught me a lot. Besides, back then, people who didn't work and support themselves -- unless they were GENUINELY disabled and could not support themselves -- were considered to be the worst kind of pathetic, useless piles of sh!t in the world.

    The fairly famous "six-month" rule you mentioned, for how much money you should be able to put your hands on very quickly, if needed, was one I lived by, and I think just about everyone I knew all my life lived by it, too. It didn't happen 'overnight', but it didn't take too very long, either. Today, most people don't have 'a pot or a window', and they don't even care -- because eight years under Obama taught them that if they just lay on their ass and whine, the GOVERNMENT will bail them out....

    You know who I learned to admire? MORMONS! On top of saving money very intelligently, they routinely stockpile a YEAR'S worth of food, medicine, ammunition for their weapons, and other necessary things in case of some kind of catastrophe or emergency. I learned a LOT from those people, too....
     
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    How about utility bills, cable bills, CEL phone bills etc... Where does it stop?
     
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    Not there, it has to include food as well

    None of that matters, this is like a war and we pay for it that way, or we lose the war.
     
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    Do you think that China will accept California as collateral on our debt?
     
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    Where does it stop? It doesn't!

    In Orwell's masterpiece, "1984", after society had been turned into a ruling elite group of "Inner Party Members", supported by their butt-kissers and functionaries, and, the vast MASSES of a miserable, totally-dependent 'proletariat' (the "Proles"), we see 'where it stops'....

    Or, to put it another way, we all get turned into a bunch of ignorant, hopeless, chunks-of-dung, who have to do the bidding of our own "Masters" (of BOTH political parties) in order to secure the miserable amount of subsistence-welfare needed in order for us to live some kind of life.

    Does that about cover it...?

    [​IMG]
     
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    Ahhhhhh there were no war bonds in 1939 they didn't come about until two years later.
     
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    I think landlords should do their best to work with tenants and be understanding of the issues, but at the end of the day, the landlord has to pay his bills too, and should be able to evict if he thinks he can get a paying tenant in there.
    Government should have absolutely no say in any of it.
     
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    Thank you. My understanding is that the nation was rearming furiously in 1939 since the war was expected imminently, though it was also opposed. They got the money from the same place nations get all their money, they printed it.
     
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    Government has some say in everything. That's what the government does and is. Government is what basically gives things existence
     
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    Will the banks not foreclose on delinquent mortgages?
     
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    but some gov'ts said to non essential workers. Stay home, you temporarily are out of a job.
     
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    I disagree. Government should be involved only when absolutely necessary. And I do not think it is necessary here. The existing laws are enough.
     
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    Why? Why should government only be involved when absolutely necessary?

    And why isn't it necessary here? How are the existing laws sufficient?
     
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    Since state and local government and their fascist policies is stopping people from working, it is the government's responsibility. The government should pick up the late/unpaid rent. The government overreacted like scared little idiots and created this mess, the least they can do is fix it...
     
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    disagree, the government will steal taxpayer money to pay for deadbeats.

    they are over leveraged and should downsize because they did not take personal responsibility.
     
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