Should people who have lost their job due to COVID, unable to pay rent, be evicted?

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Should people who have lost their job due to COVID, unable to pay rent, be evicted?

  1. Yes - Anyone who cant pay should be evicted

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  2. No - This is an unprecedented crisis, and allowances must be made.

    12 vote(s)
    41.4%
  3. Other - Please explain below.

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    20.7%
  1. Dispondent

    Dispondent Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Except good honest people would be out working and paying their rent if fascist liberals didn't close lawful commerce due to petty liberal fears. The government created this problem and it is for them to assume responsibility, oh, I get it now, that's a word liberals don't understand...
     
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    And those people went on unemployment, some making more than they did at their jobs. And now they can't pay their mortgage or rent?
     
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    liberalminority Well-Known Member

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    taxpayers who took personal responsibility against fascist liberals are not going to pay for 'good honest people'

    eviction and debt are individual liabilities.
     
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    Dispondent Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Its government action that is creating the prohibition that is restricting the citizen from being able to fulfill their obligations. This is all a fascist government problem, exasperated by liberal 'leaders' in those hard it urban hellholes...
     
  5. roorooroo

    roorooroo Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The unemployment checks those people are receiving are enough to cover their rent.
     
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    Dispondent Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    In high rent urban hellholes? I don't think so...
     
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    liberalminority Well-Known Member

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    they should have known better that they were living under a tyrannical government

    taxpayers are not picking up the bill for their eviction or past due debts.
     
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    roorooroo Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Were their paychecks enough to cover that rent? Am I wrong that the current unemployment checks and the $600 bonus are at least as much as those paychecks were?
     
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    Dispondent Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Hard to say, particularly in multi-income households where some are working and others are not. You also ignore that these things take time, and most people would have put themselves behind in rent the first weeks of this overblown cowardly government reaction...
     
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    But, those "high rent urban hellholes" are essentially the SAME now as they were, say, one year ago -- before the virus. So, if they could afford their rent before, why can't they afford their rent now?

    I haven't heard anything about rents skyrocketing because of the virus... have you...?
     
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    I tend to agree with you. People need to take greater responsibility. What do you say to the detractors that point to bail outs of business? Many people have supported the bail out of the farmers due to the trade wars. You could make the same arguments that farmers should have prepared for a trade war. This is the first time we had a pandemic that shut down the economy in my lifetime but there have been may trade wars that have impacted industries. Also the pandemic took us by surprise where as the trade war with China was telegraph before he was elected.
     
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    No, Aleks. The CITIZENS of the United States give the government an existence -- not the other way around! We even have a Constitution that tells the Three Branches of Federal Government EXACTLY what their functions are, and everything (EVERYTHING) else was supposed to be left entirely to the individual states (according to the 10th Amendment).

    At least, that's the way it was -- before Abraham Lincoln permanently crippled the 10th Amendment of the Constitution for all time....

    Today? Everything of any real importance is dictated by a damned, rotten central bank -- the Federal Reserve System!

    It's amazing to reflect on what a prophet George Orwell was, because his masterpiece, "1984" tells the story of what happens to a country when it turns into the SAME kind of pile of sh!t that WE'RE turning into right now!

    [​IMG]. "Copies of the Constitution are useful... when you run out of toilet paper...."
     
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    But you responded, the people via the gov't should not pay those rents. That is what I was responding to.

    The gov't put them on UE, and you said Gov't shouldn't pay their rent, via the $600 extra UE.
     
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    because government tends to really screw things up.
     
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    Why are/were they living in "high rent hellholes"? People who had a job paying enough to pay high rent most likely are still getting paid now. Or they should have been saving some for a "rainy day." From what I can tell, the only people really suffering are small business owners. And perhaps they should be bailed out. The rest are either low level employees who till yesterday were getting as much or more in unemployment than they made working, or mid/high level salaried who are still getting paid throughout the crisis.
     
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    The thread is about whether or not the government should pass laws which prevent a landlord from evicting non-paying tenants. My response was that the government needs to stay out of that - that is between the landlord and the tenant. Others are claiming that too many people can't pay the rent right now, so the government needs to pass laws to stop landlords from evicting non-paying tenants. So that obviously leads to the question of why the tenants aren't paying the rent. If they previously had a job that allowed them to pay the rent, and they are now receiving unemployment equal to what their paycheck was, why aren't they paying the rent?
     
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  17. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    Oh bs too. NOBODY has 6-8 months wages laid by. Nobody, if you say you do you are lying or delusional, probably both. General Motors is lying if they say that have that much

    MORMONS don't have that much.

    And by "downsize" you usually mean move your wife and 3 kids from a small apartment to the UnderBridge.

    The Government Has The Money. They won't miss it, your kids won't pay it and you won't have to pay a wheelbarrow load for a loaf of bread, There is a reason economics is a full department level in most colleges and it is not because you learned everything you need to know about it in HS Civics
     
  18. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    So, all the NDSL highways are really shitty compared to all the dirt tracks run by Free Enterprise. And our sewers were falling apart compared to the Free Enterprise ones we had back when typhoid and cholera were household names. Oh, and the Army is just the crappiest thing we have.

    Government isn't perfect by a long shot but it gets the job done reasonably well where it must. There are many other good reasons why we don't want the government doing everything but the fact that they can't do anything at all is definitely not one of them.
     
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    What exactly do you mean by "laid by"?

    And what puts you in the position to know what other people have anyway?
     
  20. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    Is anybody saying they aren't? What is happening here is that the government is about to stop the unemployment and the people will be unable to pay the rent when that happens, and it therefore shouldn't.
     
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    That's YOUR suggestion. Plenty of people will simply double-up on housing, like the sane poorer folk do all around the world. If you'd rather live on the streets than with your friends/family, that's your own issue.
     
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    Right, so keep them in your home. Or stay in someone else's, if you don't have your own.
     
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    The obvious extrapolation being that when landlords can no longer afford to carry rental properties, there'll be no more rental properties.

    These people are idiots.
     
  25. roorooroo

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    So do you stand by your statement that NOBODY has 6 to 8 months of wages saved?

    Do you think that no one can have more saved up than it says in that link?

    I cannot fathom that you would even think that, much less believe it, and then post that thought to a public forum.
     
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