Should people who lost no income or show a loss during Covid get "relief" money?

I am not a communist, I am a republican.

 

Humanities intellectual short comings never cease to amaze me.

 

LOL. A republican who thinks rocket scientists should earn the same as the kid asking if I want fries with that?

Hahahahahahahahahaha

 

On what are you basing the value of the work? There are tangible reasons one if valued over the other. You don't believe the value of a CEO to a billion dollar company is higher than that of a janitor in several office spaces?

 

A shortage of LOCAL applicants, and they aren't the only ones as I cited several others. It's not scam, in order to operate the lines they have to have people and locals aren't applying because they can no work and make the same money.

Conservative and employers are complaining the government schools are not producing educated people. They are more than willing to train and do train, but when the person comes to them and can't read or write or do math on a competent level then they have every right to complain about the public schools and the money we spend there and the results they see first hand. And the best way to improve wages overall is to get everyone working just as we saw in the late 1990's, the mid-2000's and the last 4 years before COVID hit.

So back to the point here we have AMPLE job openings, most people did not lose money during COVID and especially government workers, so why are we sending them "free money"?

 

i am not

it went right over your head

peace

 

Well this is what you said

So you are making a comparative judgement about the value that they are not but should be valued the same. OK on what are you proposing to use to value the work to make that comparison. If the value of the person answering the phone at the company is the same as the CEO of that company on what are you basing that value?

 

I made no proposal.

Peace

 

It was YOUR statement, run away if you choose but you statements will be challenged around here.

 

you seem to struggle wit simple English

 

What does this mean? Please translate, because you appear to be saying that all jobs should be valued equally, yet you keep saying you never said that.

There is nothing that stops us from valuing all work of equally. There is nothing mystical that makes us value one job over another. That is a derivative of capitalism. It does not need be so.

 

read my words again. I advocated for nothing. I created a thought exercise that was all.

 

kthanksbye

 

Well it illustrates that many don't understand that jobs do have values those values have HUGE ranges. Lots don't even understand what it is CEO's and CFO' and COO's and officers of companies do at those high levels. And then even the managers below them. So when I hear things like moves to limit executive pay to 300x the lowest wage I think what folly. The CEO is responsible for all the assets of the company, he directs the use of those assets, he PROTECTS those assets and insures that the investment of ALL the owners, ALL the stockholders is protected and makes a good return. A CEO can wreck a whole company with their decision, decisions those stockholders entrust to them and then all the way down the line. Not just the production side but even more important the sales side, generating revenue for the company. It doesn't just walk in the door. The pool of talent out there to do that is just a small fraction of the general population. That's why they get paid a LOT of money.

Now compare that to a janitor, or a production line worker or a clerk or word processor or IT. Their individual value to the company is limited to their almost immediate surroundings if you know what I mean. The amount of assets and harm a mistake can have rises with those jobs too. But to put this random 300x is what a CEO is worth or as is being asserted here that the value of those jobs is all equal is just folly.

 

lol rubbish. You're just mad because your $22 an hour is barely 20% over minimum wage adjusted for real inflation, and it makes you look far less 'Speshul' and 'skilled'. Reminds of those Klan dumbasses companies hired to assault union organizers who hated unions because their nickel an hour they made more than the Negroes got for the same work would go away and they would all be paid the same.

 

My $22 an hour? Why do you claim I make $22 an hour? The rest of your drivel not worth a response.

 

He's not a republican, he's an anti-republican masquerading as a republican. There are a few others on the board of similar status.

 

Yes, it is upsetting for the Town Hall and Freeper crowd when nobody buys their repeatedly repudiated lying and sniveling about minimum wage; class hatred just doesn't sell any more like it did under Saint Ronald, when idiots made lots of money for doing nothing but gambling, until the bubbles burst that is.

 

lol most CEOs got their jobs via the good old boy networks, and most do nothing their secretaries couldn't do. Nowadays they can make a lot more money bankrupting sound companies than by running them, just ask Mitt Romney and the 'private equity' swindlers how that works.

 

The got their jobs because they had proven their capabilities to manage huge companies and protect and grow the assets of the owners your cynicisms notwithstanding. And no they don't make lots of money by bankrupting companies and you should do a little more studying into what companies like Romney's did, they took failing companies and reorganized them into successful companies. Most of the time successful but certainly some that did not work out.

 

Try to focus this time:
My $22 an hour? Why do you claim I make $22 an hour?

And I made lots of money INVESTING all my life and particularly during great economies like under Reagan and Gingrich/Kaisch and Bush43/Republican and Trump and it wasn't gambling and went through the downs with the ups. Did you miss out on it or something?

 

The bottom line is all money that goes to the government is "OUR MONEY". The less they have the better off we all would be. They screwed it up so let them pay. Me? I've been loading up on Bit Coin and other precious metals. Stocking up on staples would be prudent. When all the masks come off and people get outside they are really going to see just how many people have really lost their jobs. Companies operate much more efficiently now with less people. Ask yourself " I'm I going to quit buying from Amazon and go back to the shopping mall'? We have learned just how convenient it is to use our phones and computers to do stuff and avoid the hassle of the streets. Cash is were you don't want to be pretty soon.