Should Pope Francis retire prematurely?

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Should His Holiness Pope Francis retire early?

  1. Yes....

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  2. No..... he is awesome.....

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  3. Perhaps.... and I would suggest Colton Burpo for the Throne of Cephas - Peter!

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  1. DennisTate

    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    We are set up for quite a conflict over the coming years........
    The gifted Kat Kerr has stated that she met Mary in visions of heaven and Mary
    did not want her role exaggerated at all?!

    We assume that heaven is a place of extremely HIGH expectations.......
    but my approach after two divorces is to LOWER expectations first.......
    and then attempt to exceed those LOWERED expectations.... producing lower levels of anger in
    wives!

    There is a saying in psychology that the difference between HIGH EXPECTATIONS.....
    and a LOW perception of reality or present conditions can be ANGER?!

    My own time of disillusionment with Messiah Yeshua - Jesus fits that profile quite nicely.......
    My expectations of Messiah Yeshua -Jesus were off the scale high......
    but my perception of the probable reality was LOW.... and I went through a time of
    anger with Messiah Yeshua - Jesus!

    Could the Christian gospel be much worse news?

    So my theory is that Mary...... unlike Lucifer..... DOES NOT WANT TO BE WORSHIPPED!!!!

    She just wants to be Mom to Messiah Yeshua - Jesus but she DOES NOT want people to worship her or exaggerate her role in any way..........
    which leads us to:


    http://64.71.77.248/fq-protestant/tfq-en.html
    And if you would really like to understand this premise:

    Your nomination for Nobel Prize in Literature?

     
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    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    I'm "just saying" about Mary. Just what the Church says, not me. And the Catholic Church has always been clear that we only worship God, however much our multiplicity of saints may suggest the old polytheistic pantheons

    The fact that Mary is the one that often "appears" to people, rather than Jesus or God, sort of backs up your idea that Mary doesn't want to be worshipped also. OTOH she may deserve a special place as a sort of "go-between" between God/Jesus and his children. This is a sort of traditional role for a mother too, yes?
     
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    I could be wrong...... I may be way, way off.... but it seems to me that
    "Wisdom" who interacted with the gifted Rick Joyner may be the personification of the Holy Spirit / the Shekina Glory of G-d..... who did appear in and through Messiah Yeshua - Jesus......
    and could say that She was him..... because she spoke and worked and did miracles through him......
    but her natural form may be that of G-d the Mother/ the Divine Feminine?????

    http://64.71.77.248/fq-protestant/tfq-en.html

     
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    Of one thing I am certain..... an incorrect belief or two or three will not stop somebody from
    making it into the heaven / paradise that near death experiencers report.

    Kat Kerr is a near death experiencer who was shown lots of things about heaven and she reports that there is more than one Pope there.......

    That is just after the 1:00:00 mark in this audio on youtube:



    1:01:40 to be specific.....
     
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    Could you please give specifics on what you mean by this?

    I think that the word "assassinated" can be taken as a metaphor for conversion....... the "old man" of sin dies!
     
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    One would have to hope there is more than a few Popes there, or there is little hope for any of us.

    OTOH the one who dug up his predecessor´s corpse, dressed it in full papal regalia, tried the macabre thing for supposed crimes, then dragged it by a hook through Rome´s streets and finally threw it in the Tiber had better not be, or I´ll go to hell
     
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    Well, I meant "the third prophecy of Fatima", Dennis. :floating:
     
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    One of your favourite links to that writing would be awesome............

    I can search myself.... but each writer deals with such topics in such a different manner.......
     
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    I would like to think that if the Latter day Saints were to get baptized for him........
    he might just accept their efforts on his behalf.......
    especially since some Latter day Saint near death experiencers were shown that preaching of some types.... continues even on in Hades........

    https://www.near-death.com/science/experts/widdison-and-lundahl.html

    For a Roman Catholic Pope to end up being assisted into a higher level of the afterlife by a Protestant would seem like a rather humbling experience I would tend to think.


    Isa 57:15

    For thus saith the high and lofty One that inhabiteth eternity, whose name is Holy; I dwell in the high and holy place, with him also that is of a contrite and humble spirit, to revive the spirit of the humble, and to revive the heart of the contrite ones.
     
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    I like Francis though, he doesn´t seem to take himself too seriously, and I find that very important in a religious leader. After all, we have very little idea of whatś coming, if anything, All the revelations are filtered through two observers, us and them, how can we hope to make lots of sense of anything we hear?

    Whatś important to us is what happens now, and I like the way Francis¨ emphasis seems to be on that.
     
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    Sorry, Dennis, I don't have it translated in English. :flowerpot:
     
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    A misspelling of poop?
     
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    The Pope sits in a seat in many ways comparable to the High Priest of the Levitical Priesthood........
    He is elected by the 120 Cardinals of the Roman Catholic Church........

    Generally he sits on the throne of the Papacy until his death.......

    He is considered to be speaking on behalf of G-d when he makes pronouncements that are ex cathedra.


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Papal_infallibility

    Matthew 23:2

    Saying, The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat:
    All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, that observe and do; but do not ye after their works: for they say, and do not.
     
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