Should Proven Competency be a requirement for President

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Should established Competence be a requirement to be president?

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  2. No

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  1. Lucky1knows

    Lucky1knows Well-Known Member

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    The office of the President is often decided by popularity but it is an office where competency is needed

    Competency to

    1) Govern
    2) Pick competent administration leaders to fulfill all the positions in government
    3) Unite people to work together
    4) Have tact in negotiations with other nations

    Trump failed on all 4 of these. Should we have a competency clause in order to be nominated and more so to get elected?
     
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    Wow, Trump's lack of competency was the most glaring problem of his administration and no reply to the poll. I am truly shocked.
    Other examples of Trump's incompetence:

    1) promised that we would built the wall and Mexico would pay for it. Failure
    2) promised that we would have a new health care plan. Failure
    3) he closed the government for 35 days and accomplished nothing. Failure
    4) began a trade war with China and it accomplished nothing and it cost us more than them. Failure
    5) he promised that Covid was under control and not only it wasn't but it got worse because of him. Failure.
    6) he promised that he would hire the best people to help him run the country and instead, we had the biiggest amount of firings ever. Failure
    7) he promised to unite the nation and instead we ended up with the most disunited nation ever. Failure

    Without a doubt, Trump was a totally incompetent person that did not have the capability of doing anything. What his administration did that helped the nation was the tax cut but that was not him that did it (he just signed the paper). It was McConnell and the majority the Republicans had in both the Senate and the House.

    With this overwhelming examples of his incompetency, no comments on the OP? Incredible.
     
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    "With this overwhelming examples of his incompetency, no comments on the OP? Incredible."

    Because it's simply a troll thread.
     
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    A troll thread? explain!!!

    The tread is about whether competency should be a requirement to run for office. What is trollish about that?
     
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    Because it should be obvious, to all, that a President need have a high degree of competence, in some areas, and a minimum degree of competence in many others, the "competency test" is the election, itself, and the competence which is being tested, is that of the electorate.
     
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    Just so. We govern ourselves and we get the government we deserve.

    Most Trumpers wouldn't object if we would set up machine guns on the Texan border and charged people to execute refugees. (Hell, most would pay gladly for that). Government exists to facilitate their hatred. These people don't CARE if the government does ANYTHING as long as the government hurts the people they hate.

    Once again; What do haters gotta do?
     
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    I was gonna guess "vote?" But then I remembered-- haters gotta hate.
     
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    The reason it's a troll thread is because the subject line, "Should Proven Competency be a requirement for President" sounds like a reasonable point of discussion (although the ultimate answer is no, since it's not testable and would require a change to the constitution in any case), but immediately your OP launches into an anti-Trump screed about legislative accomplishments which can only be judged after elected to office.

    Because of the left's obsession with a President who's been out of office almost two years there are no end to anti Trump threads in this forum, but they are open about it. You tried to lure people in based on a subject line premise that was false. The subject of this thread is Trump, always and forever amen.
     
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    The reality is that Trump had already shown incompetence before running for office. He is the perfect example of what this OP is all about. An established incompetent man that should never have been allowed to run.

    TrumpFailures.jpg
     
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    I don't think it matters. We will get the same incompetence and corruption no matter who works in the oval office. The president isn't the problem. The problem is the federal government from top to bottom.
     
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    Lol!

    Point proven! Thanks for your cooperation!
     
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    As I stated clearly but it seems you overlooked it. I use Trump as an example because he was the perfect catalyst/example for trying to find ways to be sure that competency becomes a requirement.

    Life is like that. People don't generally give importance to anything until it hits them in the face. This OP is not about Trump specifically but he is the perfect example of what is bad in the system.

    To a lesser degree, Biden is also somewhat of an example as he has never been much of a competent leader either. He has more competency than Trump but not as much as several of the other Democratic nominees..............thinking specifically of Bloomberg, who was probably the most competent of the entire bunch.
     
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    "Yes", never would have had Trump, Bush or Biden if it was
     
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    I used to think that too, but Trump proved us wrong, a bad President can really screw things up
     
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    Trump picked people with the best credentials. They all sucked ass. Any 'conpetency' test would be a similar contest of 'who is the biggest whore for the political establishment?' A team of randos off the street has a higher statistical probability of success than people with stacks of certs for selling the US out to international corporate elites.
     
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    No doubt. Look at the mess we face right now.
     
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    That's your opinion.

    Trump has his faults, but there are or have been worse, like Biden, Carter, Harding, Buchanan and Franklin Pierce. Woodrow Wilson was as arrogant and bull headed as Trump.

    Who or what panel of "experts" is going to disqualify the presidential and vice presidential candidates? Who are these wise people who know it all? Bob Muller and Adam Schiff perhaps?

    And for the record, Kamala Harris is a dingbat who has had more staff problems, per capita, than Trump.
     
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    Well, I am marginally more interested in a competency test for the voters because its their competence is in real dispute secondary to Trump taking office.

    No, I am not arguing for a competence test for voters either, but that's at least where the real problem lies.
     
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    No, it is not my opinion. He failed at all four of those. The data confirms it.

    Your response that includes Biden being worse is an opinion. He has not finished his term and on top of that he is being blamed for things he has NO CONTROL over.

    As far as a panel to disqualify. It is not a matter of having anyone specific disqualify but to set guidelines that are agreed to by both parties that are followed. In the case of Trump, that is easy given all the failures he had in his life, his inability to have good relationships with the people he worked with in the past (his own workers and the people he did business with) and the problems he created himself.
     
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    yep, 4 years of Trump and here we are
     
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    LOL.
     
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    No and there is no way you could get a Constitutional amendment for such a thing. That is for the States to judge in their selection of the President.
     
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    WOW the last two years just didn't happen................
     
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    So you support incompetency at the top position of our nation, eh?
     
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    I agree in theory, but there would never be any real objective way of measuring "competency" because everyone is going to have their own opinion. The Trump references in the OP just prove my point.

    Now if we were talking about some kind of standardized psych evaluation that was more aimed at judging mental acuity and fitness, that might go somewhere. But even that would end up being susceptible to manipulation.
     
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