Should Republicans work with Biden & Democrats?

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Should Republicans work with Biden & Democrats?

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  2. No

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  3. Only on issues that they already agree on or there is 60 supporters in Senate.

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  1. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    ok, so Biden will be the next President.

    but Republicans will likely keep the Senate.

    so should the Republicans work with Biden and the Democrats, at all?

    how about at least on issues that there is some agreement?

    I say, they should have the integrity to at least work on issues that there is a good deal of agreement on.

    Honestly if there is a good chance that a bill might get at least 60 votes in the Senate, McConnel should allow such a bill to be debated and get a vote, regardless if the Democrats wrote it.
     
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    I hate the thought of working with a bunch of wild eyed liberals on a major rage but you have go along to get along sometimes.
     
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    I'm all in favor of the two parties working together and compromising where possible. There are some issues, probably not that many where each must stand their ground. Working together has to be a two way street. Lott and Daschle could as could Mitchell and Dole. In the senate, when Reid and McConnell took over things went to Hades in a hand basket. Now Schumer is Reid II.

    I always believed that every House passed bill should be debated and voted on in the senate. Reid when he as majority leader tables over 300 and McConnell is doing the same with the Democratic controlled house. And yes, it shouldn't matter who proposes a bill, in the house or in the senate, it should be debated and voted on.

    There was an article on Yahoo News I read this AM, but can't find it again. But it was about Biden asking the Republicans to give him a chance. Of course the Republicans said no. In the article, I'm paraphrasing as best I can remember, a republicans said her Democratic friends now think Biden will unite and heal everyone. They're wrong. Now the Democrats want healing and for this country to unite. The democrats haven't earned it. Healing and coming together, not a chance. Not after they spent the last four years not willing to work with Trump one bit, trying to destroy him.

    That's close. I wished I'd saved it, it was quite a good article. As for the senate, it's 50-50 on the last two seats. All I can say is this was one crazy election. Biden winning the presidency by around 5 million votes give or take. Then the Democrats losing house seats, 8 at last count with 10 still to be decided. Losing 2 state legislature and a governorship. Here's the latest rundown,

    Senate democrat's net gain of 1 seat so far. Not much of a gain considering the Republicans had 23 seats up for reelection vs. 12 for the Democrats. Currently it 50-48 GOP. The two Georgia races will be decided in a 5 Jan 2021 runoff.

    The Republicans have a net gain of 8 seats so far with 10 still to be determined. Republicans flipped 10 Democratic seats; 1 Libertarian seat, MI-3, Amash who once was a Republican, but switched to the Libertarian Party. The Democrats flipped 3 Republican seats. Last election. 235 Democrats, 199 Republican, 1 Libertarian. Current count, 219 Democrat, 206 Republican 10 still to be determined.

    State legislature, democrats lost 2. Republicans now control 29 state legislatures to 18 for the Democrats. Arizona is still up in the air. Minnesota is divided while Nebraska has a unicameral legislature.

    governorship's democrats lost one. Republicans now have 27 governors to 23 for the Democrats. The Republicans won 8 of 11 Governors races.

    These results are about as mixed as any results can get. Certainly no mandate or any endorsement for either party's agendas or policies. Maybe one mandate, to be rid of Trump. This election was the first election where a party's candidate won the popular vote being elected president while losing seats in the house since 1884.
     
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    They should do exactly as Democrats have done these last 4 years.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Politicians should ALWAYS work together, especially on issues where there is great agreement.

    **** the Hastert Rule, ANY bill that has majority support should at least get debated.
     
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    I think I read the same article as you by the Republican who scoffed at the idea of a Democratic call for "healing" after their behavior over the past four years. Unfortunately, I didn't save it, and I don't remember where I read it. But I will say this ... and I know you know what I mean ... that astute political observers can read between the lines when politicians make statements. And usually, statements are a part of a designed narrative that has a purpose that is unstated in the outward statement. So when Democrats call for "healing", we have to be smart enough to interpret that into what they really mean by those words.

    My interpretation of those words has to do with the Democratic agenda under a Biden administration. Now if the Republicans lose the Senate, I don't think those words mean anything. But if the Republicans keep control of the Senate, then those words mean a lot. So I'm going to assume that the Republicans do keep the Senate to explain what the Democrats' definition of "healing" is.

    Lacking control of the Senate, I think "healing" is a call for Republicans in the Senate to go along with their agenda. I think "healing" means they get to win more than they lose in any compromise. I think it is probably asking Senate Republicans to go along with weaker immigration control, higher taxation upon business, green new deal legislation, anti-fracking and oil exploration legislation, re-instituting the individual mandate on Obamacare, and approving liberal activist judges to the Supreme Court.

    And I think that when Senate Republicans block any of these things the Democrats want, I think we will hear the Democrats crying that Republicans are "not letting the country heal." And furthermore, any time the Senate Republicans block some Democratic initiative, I would expect the Democrats to conjure up the name of Donald Trump to bash the Republicans with.



    Now ... changing gears for a moment ...

    I would love to see the country heal. But, at the same time, I am not optimistic.

    Seth :oldman:
     
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    Joe's been in politics a long time and he has a long and favorable record in dealing with both sides of the isle. It will be something to see how well it does or doesn't go.
     
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    Yeah, for a long time now compromise meant getting everything I want while you get nothing. I don't expect that to change.Under different leadership in the past, there was real compromise. They use to play the game of give and take. That's all changed in this modern political era of polarization, divisiveness, mega, ultra high partisanship.

    I can remember when both major parties respected the other. When both realized they were after the same goal, a secure, free and prosperous America. Only their paths was a bit different. That's all change over the last 20 or so years. Now each party is sure the other party is out to destroy America.

    I really don't see this modern era of politics ending anytime soon. What it's doing is destroying this country from within. It's a shame the leaders of both parties can't see that. I actually liked the results. Now if the GOP can win at least one of the remaining Georgia's two seats, this election would have turned out exactly as I hoped and wanted. I like divided government. In this era of the nuclear option, it's the only way one can ensure some checks on the party in power or the party who holds the presidency. So in January, I'm voting for divided government in our two senate races, for checks and balances.
     
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    Why don't the Republicans try to impeach Biden on his first day in office? You know like the Democrats treated Trump. There's plenty of stuff about Hunter and the Ukrainians and the Chinese they could go after.
     
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    Exactly, the hypocrisy here is so damn high, "Not mwy Prezzdent!!! #Resist!!!

    The sheer gal of Democrats calling for us to go along with their agenda...
    Sauce for the goose, hypocrites.
     
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    Absolutely not,

    We should oppose every single thing they want.
     
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    The fact they even have the unmitigated gall to ask this after the last 4 years....I'm calling the Gunniess Book of World Records to apply this for "Most Giant Act Of HYPOCRISY" in the history of the planet...SMDH...
     
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    Democrats now be like..... [​IMG]
     
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    what about things both sides agree on?
     
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    I've always favored a divided government, although people whine about "gridlock" and "nothing getting done". Nooo... STUPID s--t generally doesn't get passed while truly IMPORTANT things generally do.
     
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    This is what gives me hope. Many of the senators have a relationship with Joe - from both sides.
     
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    There are none.
     
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    Can you name 3 things they worked with Trump on in 4 years?[​IMG]
     
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    What about wide-eyed liberals on a major bender? Is this more palatable?
     
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    that's nonsense and you know it.

    they agree on a lot of things.
     
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    Like what?
     
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    Should Republicans work with Biden & Democrats?

    Only if they care about Americans and America...….If they hate America they will oppose everything Democrats propose...

    If Democrats propose affordable healthcare for all Americans and the Republicans fight that....are they really for Americans? No.
     
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    I agree. We Conservatives, "Republicans" (whatever the hell that is anymore), and squishy-RINO's must (MUST) work with Democrats if we're going to get this country safely through to at least the midpoint of next year.

    We can assume that the hyperliberal, radical-Leftist faction in the Democrat Party will be doing everything it can to rub all of our Conservative noses in sh!t, but we have to let this approaching idiot-phase pass and do what's best for the United States. If we fail to do this NOW, it is highly likely that in no more than another twenty years, CHINA AND RUSSIA will be making our decisions for us.

    This is demanding a hell of a lot from rational, sane, Middle-Class American taxpayers, I know. How do we get in bed -- even until the end of next June -- with creatures like Schiff, Nadler, Pelosi, "Pocahontas", "Spartacus", "AOC", Kamala-la-la, and the rest of the Loonie Tunes mob?! :cynic:

    But, somehow, some way, we have simply GOT to find a way to make it happen... even if only until the end of next June!
     
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