Should schools teach students how not to be killed by police?

I assume you walk around with your finger on the trigger.after all, people who are going to attack you will politely wait for you to get your gun. Attackers prey on people when they are unaware. It’s the element of surprise

 

Not for all of us, and the world knows this.

 

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It should be assumable by the public when confronted by a murderer that they not be wearing the uniforms of and be employed by the corporate state. The footage of recent events is what it is. But hey, partisanshitheads are what they are as well.

 

Are you anti government given it is government that hired the cops?

 

I for instance spend most of my time at one of my desks. To ensure safety, my semi automatic pistol is in a known to me drawer and not on safety. I check my clip from time to time to ensure bullets are there. I am not a slave to waiting for cops to show up. If I should click the safety on, a simple flick and it is off.

 

As I mentioned before, Philando Castile did all that but today he is dead.

 

Yeah, but cops are formed and paid. A citizen doesn't get paid to be a "professional citizen" - if we were, we wouldn't need police. And I'll tell you who is cut out to a cop nowadays: Sons and dauthers of cops. That's right; heredity has become the number one criterion to go cop: then they are trained as if people were their opponents. They are an almost genetical micro society of their own, not far from being totally cut off from the citizens they were supposed to protect.

That's how you end up with a panicky, twitchy police force, 120lbs wet police officers incapable to have judgement of their own and yet with delusion of total power, and whose carreers depends on the number of tickets they give to honest people. If that's what the police force have become to everybody's acceptance, then I can't wait to see them replaced with less arrogant ticket machines.

It's not about how an individual reacts to cops - it's about how society reacts to cops.

 

Risky, and against basic firearms safety rules. It would be less risky to discreetly carry, IMO.

 

Now you are being ridiculous. Most attackers prey on people they feel are unarmed or an easy touch like in gun free zones or cities. The majority of gun violence occurs in cities where there are already strict gun laws. Which law now or any law in the future would a criminal obey?

 

And if someone comes up behind you with an automatic and blows out your brains your gun in your drawer will do you absolutely no good. What is really pathetic is the fact that you have to have to be armed like that. What kind of work do you do that makes you so fearful?.

 

Yep, we all need military guns...they’re great because you can slaughter dozens in a couple of minutes I am sure That’s just what our forefathers wanted.. ...Oh well, boys will be boys

 

There is a wall behind me. The door is about 20 feet away. I am not fearful. I am armed. I sell real estate.

But one of my friends was also armed. And he sold coins and bullion. One day after he first electronically unlocked his business, some Mexicans he had seen before came in. Maybe he got distracted. Nobody knows. The Mexicans grabbed one of his guns and killed him. So of course being armed is not all it takes. He probably lost his vigilance.

Then later a few then businesses off, the owner of a pawn shop was dealing with 3 blacks. Suddenly they jumped him and shot him dead. Too bad. Maybe his best deal was not to deal with blacks.

Your opinion?
http://www.numismaticnews.net/article/viewpoint-ron-millers-legacy-still-felt-after-20-years

Viewpoint: Ron Miller’s legacy still felt after 20 years
Posted on April 8, 2013 by NMN

By Michael S. Turrini
It has been two decades, since March 16, 1993, when Ronald Lee “Ron” Miller was tragically murdered in his Fremont, Calif. coin shop.

In the weeks following there were tributes in various California periodicals and local newspapers summing up that Ron was an ambassador to numismatics, attending a coin show nearly every weekend, belonging to over 15 local coin clubs as well as national and specialty groups, and serving as president of the Fremont Coin Club, San Jose Coin Club, and Northern California Numismatic Association, as well as holding other positions. His most notable contribution was cofounding the Fremont Coin Club back 1971.

Ron preached quality. Buy and collect quality, not just the highest grade or best choice specimen, but quality in the look and rarity. His talks always punctuated that quality never deteriorates nor loses its luster and only earns value and enjoyment years afterward.

Ron believed in service. His aforementioned short summary only tips the iceberg of his service. He committed himself to service in those groups that he joined and became active. He once remarked to this author that after a particular grueling ordeal at a local coin club board meeting he thought about quitting. I asked what he did: he returned to the next board meeting and continued, rising to become its president.

Ron encouraged others to participate. He wanted not so much others to replace him in a particular position or assignment, but to join in the effort. He firmly believed and advocated, by his own example, that one should be more than a dues-paying member; one should be a committed and contributing member.

Ron never forgot that family is first. With all his shop hours, weekends at shows, and regular cycle of meetings, family was first. /end of cut and paste

RIP Ron. Me and my daughter found a good friend and a boost for my daughter.

 

Bear in mind, if you are shot by some criminal, you spent a lot of time mocking self defense.

 

Basically it was what our founders wanted, they wanted the people to be able to protect this country from invasion or a tyrannical government, at that time the people had the same kind of guns the military had. The AR15 is a semi automatic weapon, one trigger pull one shot not like the military ones which can be fully automatic. Just because some are designed to look like the military guns does not mean they function like one and visual style should never be a reason to ban them.

 

Nothing can protect anyone from sneak attacks but if an attacker were to shoot someone in an office near by then his gun could be used to protect others and himself. Yes it is pathetic to have a need to be armed like this but that is the nature of this world where we have people in it who desire to kill others. In a majority of instances it takes about 15 minutes from the call to the police until they arrive, what are you supposed to do while you wait, hide under your desk? I am sure it is the opposite of fearful when you arm yourself to protect yourself and others it is preparation. It seems some would rather hide in fear while others are being killed than to try and do something about it. Fear is not the reason we own guns, it is protection of ourselves and others, even you.

 

Not the “world” we live in...the country we live in. What other country has anything near ours in gun deaths?

 

Ok..I’m all for muskets ..gee, he only killed 17 with a semi....why does anyone need that other than for hunting....human beings!

 

Yes and if somebody hurt my child I would want his head chopped off along with his balls, but this isn’t the way democracies work.

 

Frankly at no time has CA sought my vote on gun laws. Nor have they sought my vote on crimes such as murder.

So in that context, I have yet to see democracy at work. I have seen how the republic operates so on that note since you did not bring that up, I have no other comment at the moment. By the way, do you honestly think a man with no head feels a hurt sensation as you chop off his balls?

 

You act as if the gun is a single purpose machine. I shot machine guns in the Army and even in high school yet have not once fired at a human. Somebody should have informed me I was wrong to shoot at targets and they would round up humans for me to kill. But nobody did.

I have yet to see from any Trump hater why Obama never caught this ration of doo doo that Trump catches!!!! It is no question since I do not expect a reply on that issue.

I would ask why it is that a friend of this shooter warned and warned authorities about the violence pent up in the shooter yet no authority in Florida took action. Do you even wonder?

U.S.
Florida Shooter's Former Friend Says She Reported Him To School 'Multiple' Times

https://www.yahoo.com/news/florida-shooter-apos-former-friend-141541134.html

 

What other country, beginning with Robert Bork and including Reagan, Bush 43 and Trump has lived where people openly march and shout they are the resistance and what other country supports hating the president? In this nation, if you won't eat, the president takes the blame. If your slow with bowel movements, just blame Trump. There is a Trump hate industry.

 

I’m so glad you supported obama. He didn’t get blamed for anything lol...he wasn’t even born here.
There is a good reason to hate Trump. As we see now he wasn’t legitimately elected and he has done more damage to the image of America than any other president. I bet you see his tweets as presidential. I bet you see mocking people when you are the president of the United States as presidential. I bet you see using dead high school kids to promote your political agenda as presidential. I bet you care more about your guns than you do about dead children
People mock him all over the world..except for Russia. The idiot wrote that Russia is laughing at America. No, they are laughing at trump. But you are nice and loyal and even though they have evidence that Russia invaded our democracy you will still defend this despicable man. I would dislike any president who is getting intelligence that Russia is at war with us and cyber attacking us and doesn’t want it investigated. I would be suspicious of any president who didn’t want to pursue this. I would think he has something to hide. Fortunately most Americans feel the same way As Trump said his supporters would always defend him.

 

Nobody needs to support any president. But why do you expose yourself to being taught how the voting system here in the USA works? Hint, has not nor ever been a popular vote contest.

I have no clue why you think he is not legitimate.

Frankly, I doubt the birth issue would have some up had not Hillary's followers sued Obama. When the Democrats go after a person, they fight dirty.

Trump never at any point used this as one of his issues during his campaign.

I guess the first Democrats to sue Obama felt bad his father got cut out of his rights as a father and some people decided the young girl mom had all the rights for her son.

Nah, I think the world sees we no longer have a patsy who rolls over for other countries. Trump represents the USA and no other nation. I would think the nations would appreciate that they have that respect.

Say for instance on your Russian issue .... some US citizens here in the USA decide to play a role in the Russian election. So they rent offices and set up computers and all it takes to play a role in Russian elections, and some of them fly to Russia and do jobs there to work against the Russians. My guess is you would applaud them wildly. But what would that mean for the US Government that played no role at all? We blame Russia for the things done by 13 private citizens. Funny how that translates to government.

If you only see the tweets the Democrats ran media shows you, you get pissed off. But if you see all of his Tweets and also his daily messages to America from the white house, it makes a lot more sense.

Trump mocks the first mocker, Kim Jong Un. I enjoy him mocking the dictator. No reason not to mock the man. Why? Kim has daily mocked this country, yes even when Obama was here, and never got his mocking face taken down. It is high time we had a president who was going to jaw bone Kim and see if that works since diplomacy has failed to work.

Kids in Florida act like the Cruz Killer was an agent for Trump. Trump had nothing to do with it. Classmates of Cruz turned him in and I blame the school for not taking action when he was a student. I blame the local cops who showed up time after time and let him roam streets armed. I blame the FBI who knew of this murderer and did not take action. I do not blame Trump and Trump not need defenses.
Given i live in CA and my state has no rules over Florida, I see this as an issue for the local school, the local cops and the local government plus Florida government. I doubt they have a law saying it is fine to kill children.

Naturally by being nasty to me, you think you made good points. Sorry, that crap does not work where i live.

The FBI uncovered a plot but I still do not see the FBI naming Russia as the country doing this. I see it nails russians, but russians does not mean they rule Russia.

I believe when you allege Trump is not legitimate, that and not Russia caused your vicious outburst.

This happened when Obama was in charge. But not one word of venom is directed at Obama when during his time in charge, he did not lift one finger to stop the Russians. The media alleges OBama is clean as white rice due to sanctions. But that was in December past the election. When the horse leaves the barn, it is too late to put a lock on the barn door. But you do not blast Obama who let all of this happen. Why not direct venom on Obama?

 

I guess winning an election unfairly doesn’t matter to you, it does to most Americans, most Americans oppose fraud and cyber attacks.
I just don’t understand how you can disregard all the Intel because of your love for Trump. They have indicted people and they were connected to Russia and one of them works directly with Putin and we should be curious to know if putin has anything to do with it. It is so sad that you don’t even want it investigated and just disregard something so serious. Look how you wanted Hillary’s emails investigated over and over but yet something as serious as this you disregard. That should concern you but you rather just say it’s made up. Yes it’s all part of the conspiracy. Trump knew his base What I am finding so amazing is your lack of intellectualism. Do you bother to even read a legitimate newspaper? How you can say Russia has nothing to do with this is mind blowing! No one denies it
If Obama was involved in this I would want to know as well. But last I heard Obama is not the president and was not elected fraudulently
I guess you and I just have different values. I think mocking a dangerous leader is plain stupid and even his advisers pleaded with him to stop it. You are just one who feeds his narcissism because all he cares about is himself. You think it is OK that he refers to Rubio and flake and Hillary and ted Cruz and shiff by childish school boy names is presidential. It speaks volumes about your standards
But like a true extremist you accuse the kids in Florida of blaming trump for the shooting. No , they are blaming trump for making it even easier for mentally ill to get guns. Obama tried to make it harder and your boy made it easier.They see through the bullshit that Trump is spewing about mental illness when it is gun control that we need. We don’t need military weapons whose sole purpose is to kill other human beings.These young people are a lot smarter. I’m sure you can tell me why anyone needs an automatic weapon that can kill 17 people in a few minutes.
There are mentally ill people all over the world there are mentally ill women here and yet they don’t have the mass shootings like we have over and over and over
And please do not cloak yourself in indignation that I am attacking you when you talk about my “vicious outbursts” grow up...if you can’t take it, don’t give it