Should the media be an advocate for democracy?

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  1. Joe knows

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    That’s because you can’t think on your own
     
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    A republic allows for everyone to have a voice, a democracy all too often was found to oppress and silence the majority. By your definition the UK is a republic, or even Germany. But they are not. They have national votes on law, that is indicative of a democracy not a republic.
     
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    Lousy transparent attempt to use "et al" so you don't have to mention the fact that that includes our Intelligence Agencies, Trump's own appointees, former Trump campaign officials an independent Grand Jury appointed by the Trump administration, a Republican-led Senate Committee....

    However, I must say, that your arguments work great for me. What I do when I see anybody who claims they are "undecided" about Trump's criminal activity (won't work with Trump cultists, of course) is to point them in the direction of a Trump loyalist's arguments. Because that kind of arguments, while they work great with other Trump loyalists, will NEVER convince anybody else. Definitely not anybody who actually cares to view the matter objectively.
     
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    Cite something from political science to support your definition.
     
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    Criminal conspiracy means he would have to charge a Russian with a crime and prosecute, say, Vladimir Putin.
     
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    I cited no "media."
     
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    Until they killed one cop and seriously injured 200 Capitol cops.
     
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    Well true if you discount all the good things he did, which you obviously have.
     
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    It wasn't a coup. Doesn't match the definition of a coup and he didn't wait three hours before he made a plea to be peaceful and mind the Capital police.
     
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    It wasn't all peaceful. There were things broken and people injured. It wasn't as bad as the 2020 riots but it was still a riot.
     
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    Trump's mob killed one cop and injured 200.
     
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    A reasonable point. Given how incompetent the voting public is at choosing leaders, I can't imagine them voting on policy.
     
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    Still a peaceful protest according to the rules of contemporary journalism.
     
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    Let me refer you to the standard established by contemporary journalism:

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    What journalism is that?
     
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    What you may have read from a book that teaches journalism is NOT what commercial journalism is...
     
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    Oh please.
     
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    Good talk.
     
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    Here is your false accusation "So you confirm that a right-winger would consider "good journalism" something that is not objective journalism".

    Which you now claim refers only to me and not all right wingers .. but is still a false accusation as Im not a right winger .. nor do I consider unobjective journalism "Good Journalism" - like you do nor do I consider journalsim that objective "bad Journalism" like you do .. but this isn't about you .. but your claims about me.

    So now we have 2 false claims .. but no generalization. Well done :)
     
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    You're welcome.
     
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    You went way too far. All I said media is supposed to be neutral. and tell both sides of the story.
     
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    And my point was that not every story has two sides.
     
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    Didn't say every story. Anyone can determine that. But if the media is philosophycally neutral then they won't be able to be swayed. It's more healthier. Some of the issues we have now is they think they're pro democracy and they get tricked and push bad ideas into society.
     
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    ok
     
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    Nah you have to separate the ones who actually did the violence from the ones who didn’t. The ones who didn’t were engaged in a peaceful protest. The violent offenders were just troublemakers from out of town. At least that’s what the Libs have been telling us
     
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