Should the media be an advocate for democracy?

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  1. Golem

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    You do know that government contracts take weeks to get and that a pre-set time to do the work is also done before any thing is done....right?
     
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    Pedantics duly noted.
     
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    How does reposting the same false accusations prove your claim. . Any moron can repeat a false accusation over and over from the peanut gallery .. surely this is not the limit of your capability ?!
     
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    It's just... priceless. You have the Intelligence Reports from our own Agencies, the Republican Mueller Investigation, the Report of the Republican-led Senate Intelligence Committee investigation, testimony under oath by Trump appointees and ... even by Trump campaign officials... under oath!!!... ALL of which show that the Trump campaign colluded with Russia to get Trump elected in 2016. But this... people... choose to believe some wingnut media propagandist who tells them that none of those reports exist. And they STILL don't understand that they are the worst victims of propaganda since... the 1940s
     
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    I am thrilled when right-wingers keep doubling down on excuses that are so obviously nonsensical as this because when any moderately intelligent person who has not yet made up their mind hears it they go... "Huh???" And my case proving how vulnerable some on the right are to the most absurd propaganda is automatically made.
     
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    I'm not reposting ANY accusation (false or otherwise). I am reposting YOUR words to prove that you DID say them.

    It's obvious that you now want to recant on what you said. Well... go ahead and recant. Or don't... that's up to you. Makes no difference to me. I quoted what you said and anybody can check.
     
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    They're not victims of anything. They're fully aware that Trump whored out the USA for a few Facebook ads. Trumpers. Don't. CARE. They wouldn't care if someone found incontrovertible proof that Spetsnaz had killed all the election supervisors in several key districts and were pumping in fraudulent ballots by the millions. Trumpers are concerned with one thing and one thing only. TRUMP. MUST. WIN.

    The Ghost of Jim Jones has been channeling Trump for several years now and most Republicans are possessed by the ghosts of the Jonestown Massacres.
     
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    Then why hasn't he been charged with conspiracy to defraud the elections? Why isn't that talked about anymore? Answer: Because there is no evidence that he colluded with Russia. The lack of action is proof that there is no evidence that he colluded with Russia. Not to mention Mueller's report explicitly says that they could not find any evidence of a conspiracy, IE: Collusion.
     
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    Wow, talk about showing a lack of knowledge of reality.
     
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    Which of the two alternatives do you prefer? Democracy or totalitarianism?
     
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    An more recently they advocated packing the Supreme Court as a political solution.
     
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    That is a joke. The media under Trump was never about facts. They never told any of all the good things Trump did. There was a survey done by Harvard University as to how the media reacted to the news about Trump, and most of it was over 90% negative. How anyone could say the media was as close to the facts as possible, must be living in fairy land.

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    And Trump ended with a violent coup attempt. So media was right.
     
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    No. Mueller said "collusion" is a meaningless term. He was looking for a "criminal conspiracy."
     
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    Four years the media reported on Trump and if they called what happened on Jan. 6 a coup attempt by Trump, they even got that wrong. The media didn't keep America informed, didn't try. They flat out refused to tell anything good Trump did.
     
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    Trump was the cause of the violent coup attempt.
     
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    I will agree, some of his followers staged a break in of the Capital instead of a peaceful protest to Congress as he wanted them to do and I think some of his words incited some of the more fanatics among the crowd. But what they did was not a coup attempt. Doesn't meet the definition of a coup. But it sounds good to the Left.
     
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    Trump organized it. His staff had a hotel room where they planned it. We know Trump and his staff wanted to invalidate the certification of the Electoral College count. It was planned by Trump.
     
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    Trump might have a meeting to plan the demonstration. But show me where they planned to break into the Capital and cause trouble. I'll wait for your answer
     
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    Don't we all post waiting for answer?
     
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    He didn't want to invalidate the certification. He wanted to hold it up by putting pressure on Congress, by the big crowd to do so till voter fraud could be investigated. Isn't the way I said it more of the truth in what you heard?
     
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    Nothing you said is true. I am way beyond pretending.
     
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    Everything I said is true. You can't find anything I said in any of my posts that's wrong. I think I have proven the news who are suppose to keep people informed didn't. All most all their news on Trump was negative. Prove me wrong.
     

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