Should the power grid be socialized??? NanoCrystal Electricity

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  1. perdidochas

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    Simply impractical. Why radiate out power in all directions? Unless the power is used, it would be wasted as heat. That, and if you think EM radiation from cell phones is bad, the above will dwarf it.
     
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    To quote Robert Heinlein, "There ain't no such thing as a free lunch."
     
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    That type of power generation has been low power but could be used to power electronic devices - phones, tablets, laptops, radios. You used to be able to buy a wrist watch that was powered in the manner the article states (the motion of walking and moving your arm). But who knows what the future will turn up as people create exotic materials. Imagine a car powered in such a way, no gas or diesel or giant battery bank.
     
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    They are commonly used in medical devices today to read pressures
     
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    The company “NanoCrystal Electricity” seems to be a start-up making some fairly wild promises about their wireless charging at distance technology. As far as I can tell, it doesn’t actually involve nanocrystals (I can only find technical references to that relating to solar cells) and that’s just a cool sounding word they’re using.

    They’re not the first or only company working on this kind of technology but it’s fairly early in its development. It’s nothing that special or magic, really just an extension of the contactless charging that’s being available recently (not to belittle the all work of the scientists and engineers would have done to make it a reality).

    There is a world of difference between charging your phone from a box sitting at the other end of your desk and wireless charging at the scale you’re talking about. There are all sorts of technical, practical and safety questions over that. This kind of remote charging of personal devices or electric cars is a addressing an identifiable problem. I’m not convinced the same applies at that larger scale and that it would ever have benefits over conventional transmission of power through cables.
     
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    The moment anyone mentions Dems or Reps as the causes or solutions of critical US issues is someone incapable of their own open-minded thinking...
     
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    Now don't go getting all practical with us...
     
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    I am a strong believer that the best system uses the best of all systems, when people restrict themselves to just one system, that is a self inflicted handicap
     
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    I can't help it.
     
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    It doesn't seem like you understand the concept of Wardenclyffe tower. There doesn't have to be "enough energy in the atmosphere for domestic use" because the idea was not to draw energy from the atmosphere, but pump it into the ground. And EM radiation from cell towers is not at all analogous, because the idea was to use the Earth as a conductor, not the atmosphere.
     
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    Makes no difference what you or I believe...the answer is in the results! Are we getting results that are in the best interest of the USA...
     
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    The purpose of ether was as a medium to carry electromagnetism.
    The concept model of how Ether was supposed to work was proven to be false. The Michelson-Morley experiment proved that Ether was not 'universally static' thus disproving that model of ether but did not disprove ether in its original concept. Many scientists still thought some form of ether still existed. Even Einstein referred to the ether but only as a medium that carried particle waves.
    Today another form of ether resurfaced with new name and has been proven. The Higgs field.
     
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    Yes, the power grid should be socialized. Such a vital part of our society which literally affects EVERYTHING should not be left to those who want to squeeze as much profit out of it as they can. Socialize it and lower the cost for everyone, as well as taking control of those vital services out of the hands of private owners. Health care is the other area that should be socialized, for the same exact reasons.

    Everything else can stay the same.

    EDIT: I want to point out that socializing either of those things does not mean the government pays your bills for those services for you. It means taking away the extra cost tacked on to what consumers pay for those services that would normally be the "profit" a private business is after.
     
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    Not sure that nationalizing electrical power, or water, or natural gas, etc. makes sense considering we have an incompetent government today...don't see how government is a solution to anything? All of these power companies are government regulated but once you nationalize them there will be zero cost controls and little accountability...
     
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    Power companies here in PA were deregulated just about 10 years ago. We were promised lower costs, but got the opposite. That tends to be the story everywhere.

    When you deregulate someone or something whose exclusive goal is to have as much money as is possible, that's exactly what you're going to get. In most cases, this effect on folks is minimized, but that's not possible with an industry like power because it's so prevalent in so much of our lives.

    Once you nationalize the power companies, there will be more accountability. Right now these private companies are really only accountable to their private owners. I'm not saying it would be a smooth transition or that new problems wouldn't arise, but we would all be better off if we're not trusting such a vital part of our lives to someone whose only interest is securing as much profit for themselves. They don't have to be competitive, because power is something we NEED, not just want. And many areas are only serviced by one, maybe two, power companies. When you have a basic essential product that everyone needs, and you're the only one providing it, you control it. That shouldn't be the case.
     
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    When you nationalize the power companies, reliability will go down and costs will go up.
     
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    Most all power companies in scenarios in which there is one or two companies, are heavily regulated and cannot achieve any profits they desire. Government and/or consumers should never allow a monopoly scenario that is not publicly regulated...
     
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    I have read about this but don't see any account of anyone putting it to practical use.No power lines,no wiring or outlets in your house you don't ever plug anything in, just turn it on and it works.It all sounds fantastic for home owners but what about electricians,wiring manufacturers and all the others whose jobs disappear?Of course we would all have to replace every appliance,TV,radio etc,etc.
     

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