Should the Voting Age be Lowered to 17?

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  1. Sharpie

    Sharpie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That used to be a requirement of legal immigration.
     
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    Naturalization is the word you should have been looking for.
     
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    While I agree with your intent what you have posted are the concept of privileges not rights. As per the infamous words of Thomas Jefferson:


    Personally I believe the document would have been a lot better if he would have stopped there but alas he didn't. Anyway by nature all men (gender neutral) are created equal. Rights are endowed by their creator at the moment of life, not as the Bar Association would lead one to believe, as privileges endowed by man.

    First, no one has any rights under the constitution. The constitution does not apply to the people, it's application is but to government as rights to act or restrictions not to act. The Bill of Rights are but reminders to the government of rights retained by the people that shall not be thread upon, the most important being Amendments 9 and 10 that was thread upon to such a degree by Amendment 14 that they are in effect negated by a steady stream of propaganda.

    As to children, they are the responsibility of the parents in all matters. There are no rights to education beyond the parent to provide such either themselves or in concert with others in the community. There is no rights to healthcare beyond the parents to nurture and provide for their well being. A declaration of a right to either education or healthcare is but to claim some ability to steal from another without consideration of those being stolen from. It is this lack of responsibility that has put this nation and the world where we are today.

    As to the age of voting, I would say a human would be capable of making such a decision after a century on this planet in which case the wise would say "no thank you". Voting for one to represent you, especially as distance increases, is paramount to declaring one is incompetent in handling their own affairs, thus the need of being represented. To be represented involves appointing an agent, a very dangerous proposition as agents carry no responsibility. All acts of an agent are considered as acts of the principle holding the agent immune to their choices.
     
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    Common and sense has been separated to such a degree that to put those words together have become an oxymoron.
     
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    Voting age should be raised to 25. That was the voting age in Ancient Greece and they were right then and would be right today.
     
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    Why not lower the voting age to 12? How funny would it be to hear politicians make cases for subsidized Playstation Network membership?

    (Sometimes I worry about putting ideas like that in public because there might be a Democrat taking notes.)
     
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    To 16 ages I willings.
     
  8. Sharpie

    Sharpie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That's interesting!
    Once again, chalk one up of the ancient Greeks (who our founding fathers studied and whose philosophies are written into our Constitution).

    I wonder how many kids know anything about classical philosophy and thinking -- do you think it is even part of the curriculum?
     
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    I believe the big question would be how many of the younger age even know anything about philosophy, period. This country was designed for morals, without morals we have what we got. Life was designed to be lived by a philosophy, without philosophy life is what we got. The bible offers an outstanding philosophy that has been destroyed by religion. Aristotle was an outstanding philosophy destroyed by Kant and Hegel resulting in the Hitlers of the world. Nothing has changed since them, it has but degraded into the world of slavery as we experience today. But has it reached the depths, no, not yet. Therefore the big question is will it reach those depths?

    Lowering the voting age would definitely accelerate the decline!!!
     
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    How do you know?
     
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    So you don't want Democrats to win another election ever again? That's cruel.
     
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    Another way to rig the election in favor of libs.
     
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    Sharpie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Link please

    :roflol:
     
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    LOL! I agree!!!

    If we thrown EQ in it would be a landslide. :D
     
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    http://reason.com/archives/2014/06/13/are-conservatives-dumber-than-liberals

    Drunks tend to be conservative!!! I always knew it but never thought about it.
     
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    3link Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Are you asking for a link that supports my theory (i.e., fact) or are you misspelling my name horribly?
     

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