Should there be a Black-only police force in some towns and cities?

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Should there be a Black-only police force in some towns and cities?

Poll closed May 23, 2021.
  1. Yes, towns and cities with large Black majorities should have Black-only police departments.

    6.7%
  2. No, no town or city should have a "Black-only" police department.

    30.0%
  3. There shouldn't be racial 'set-asides'. All police depts. should be staffed on a color-blind basis.

    63.3%
  1. crank

    crank Well-Known Member

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    Stop doing crime.
     
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  2. crank

    crank Well-Known Member

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    And you live in the 21stC, not the 1950s.
     
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  3. crank

    crank Well-Known Member

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    So the idea is to FORCE black people to apply for those jobs? And somehow FORCE them to pass the entry exams etc?
     
  4. Chrizton

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    Oh that predates Biden. The number of black majority cities and towns exploded since the early 70's due to white flight. It is why America's "Black Belt" is in the south. The black population didn't radically increase. Whites moved out of town into the near-in suburbs so that their little ones wouldn't be forced to go to schools with poor blacks being bused into every urban school district. It continues to this day, and will probably worsen over the next generation. Nothing we can really do about it as people are free to move wherever they like. Back in the 70's, it was probably just good old fashioned racism. I am not so sure it isn't the rational choice these days seeing as to how violent and academically abysmal some of our urban schools have become.
     
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  5. Seth Bullock

    Seth Bullock Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Ideally, the racial makeup of a police department should reflect the racial makeup of the city.
     
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  6. Starcastle

    Starcastle Well-Known Member

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    To start we can prosecute criminals in these cities for violent crimes. We have city governments and prosecutors in these cities who have taken sides with the criminals against the police.

    The idea of a police force of all one race is moronic and incredibly reactionary.
     
  7. modernpaladin

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    The police force should be made up of people who live in the community they're policing.
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    of course not, picking only black cops would be as bad as picking only white cops
     
  9. Pollycy

    Pollycy Well-Known Member

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    Again, I remind us that what we're doing now in this country IS NOT WORKING!

    Look -- a Black police officer and a White police officer might (MIGHT) make exactly the same decisions and handle a situation exactly the same way... BUT, the perps, suspects, criminals, warrant-runners, etc. seem to be much more likely to disobey, fight, and resist arrest if they're BLACK and the police officer is WHITE. We're seeing that all over the whole country where there is a Black majority in the population!

    Consider all the highly-publicized incidents of 'trouble' between Black perps and police officers in 2020 and so far this year, too.

    Question: how many of those 'situations' involved a Black perp AND a Black police officer?!

    So far, I'm the only one who voted "yes", so I guess I'm full of crap. Fine! Then we may as well resign ourselves to seeing this kind of trouble between Black perps and the police every day from now on because -- one more time -- what we're doing now ISN'T WORKING.
     
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  10. joesnagg

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    I recently heard an older black woman on a radio call in show opine that a major problem in the black community was the lack of a black male in the home to apply a hand to a misbehaving black behind...not that's unknown in the white community either. Only the black community can address their problems, wasn't the concept of "the white man's burden" discredited?
     
  11. Pollycy

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    The situation with Blacks and the police is so bad now, Joe, that I restrict my thinking to the narrow point of -- "How can we simply have a population that obeys the law, and obeys lawfully-given police commands?"

    We can all 'opine' about the ongoing ruination of the country we used to be, and I mourn for it every single, stinking day now. It does no good. So, I no longer get all spun-up in a thankless thought-process of 'woulda, coulda, shoulda', and focus tightly on what we must do to keep this country from disintegrating any further than it already has. First -- and most importantly of all -- ALL of us, regardless of race, MUST OBEY THE LAW... then, after we can finally achieve that, maybe we can turn our attention to 'the decline and fall of the American family', etc. :lonely:
     
  12. FoxHastings

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    Ya, but racists see this segregation as a good thing....slavery comes next on their agenda...
     
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  13. Pollycy

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    Segregation?! Slavery?! What is the MATTER with the radical, Loonie Tunes faction in the United States today? Neither "segregation" nor "slavery" have anything to do with any of this!

    We need to have people OBEY THE LAW, or else we live in an anarchic, insane HELL. Am I really the only one who sees this...?

    Which police officer is a Black perp more likely to obey -- a Black police officer, or, a White police officer? Think about it!

    Question: when was the last time you heard about some Black perp trying to fight a Black police officer, or resist arrest by a police officer who was Black...?! Sometimes I think our country has turned into a gigantic, open-air INSANE ASYLUM.... :psychoitc:
     
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    Ya, you want black police segregated to their own units.

    What you want IS having different laws for "different" people...
     
  15. Pollycy

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    NO... foxhastings, what we need are the same laws, and the same behavior, training, and functions for ALL police officers! What I'm saying is that BLACK perps don't fight or resist BLACK police officers -- so -- the logical, sensible thing to do is have BLACK police officers enforcing laws in predominately BLACK precincts, cities, and towns.

    You know what's really crazy? I really thought this idea would be approved and acclaimed by everybody, Left and Right. Instead, nobody is in favor of it but me. And guess what -- the hate, the rage, and the out-of-control lawlessness we see in those predominately BLACK areas will continue as they have been until/unless we do something that puts BLACK police officers directly in front of BLACK perps and lawbreakers! This hasn't got ANYTHING to do with "segregation" or wanting to ENSLAVE anyone....

    [​IMG]. I should have paid more attention to this sign at the entrance to Hell.
     
  16. FoxHastings

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    NOPE , what we need is what the DOJ is doing, investigating the MPLS Police Department to weed out White Supremacists , racists, and all other lawless,violence prone SCUM of the earth...


    We need it in every police department...

    What you're proposing is, of course, racist.
     
  17. Pollycy

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    Unbelievable! No wonder we on both the Left and the Right loathe and despise each other so much.

    Well, I offered the best solution to this enigmatic problem I could think of. Nobody likes it but me, so, to hell with it. I'm done trying....

    Next week, I suppose there will be another big 'outrage' of some kind involving Blacks and the police. And, if we don't come up with new ways of facing the REALITIES of the whole tragedy, we'll never change anything....

    Ho-hum.... :sleepy:
     
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    It is not the best solution. Hiring people based on pigmentation? That only creates animosity and a less qualified police force. Progress is to move away from pigmentation politics.
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    NOPE , what we need is what the DOJ is doing, investigating the MPLS Police Department to weed out White Supremacists , racists, and all other lawless,violence prone SCUM of the earth...


    We need it in every police department...

    What you're proposing is, of course, racist.



    """Well, I offered the best solution to this enigmatic problem I could think of. Nobody likes it but me, so, to hell with it."""

    Gee, it must be a really lousy "solution" :) if no one likes it but you.

    I see you didn't like my idea...which is way more practical and not racist at all....
     
  20. Lil Mike

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    You're asking "should we do it" but the real issue to start with is, "can we do it?"

    The answer is pretty clearly no since law enforcement has been making an effort to to bring in a diverse workforce for decades. The problem is the potential qualified pool of minority hires is just too small. Smaller lower paid police forces are going to be more white because a black applicant is in such demand that they can go to bigger departments that pay much more.

    There doesn't seem to be a solution to this.
     
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    Ban him!!!!

    No, your point is interesting enough in terms of policy, but it would be illegal under title 7 and unconstitutional to ban whites from policing "black neighborhoods," whatever that means, and white neighborhoods, whatever that means. Within shouting distance of my house, there are Koreans, Vietnamese, blacks, Danes, Chinese, Indian (Hindu), mixed race, and your average white guys. Who would qualify to police my neighborhood?
     
  22. Pollycy

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    Hey, you win! I'm finished with it.

    If Blacks want to keep on breaking the law and resisting arrest, that's fine with me. It's 'no skin off my nose', and I'm rapidly approaching the point where I don't even CARE anymore what they bring on themselves!
     
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    Are there any Hmong in your neighborhood? Perhaps they could handle it. The average white guys need to be executed for their privilege!

     
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    I certainly understand your frustration and without white cops the mainstream media would have less to report on.
     
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    The colour of the police officers is not the problem.
     

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