Should trans individuals be banned from teaching grade-high school?

Biology does not create just two types of humans.

At the most basic level of animal biology, there are a huge number of ways to be male or female or both. The seas have plenty of fish species that change from one sex to another midlife and some can even change back again. There are lizards that are only female and they reproduce by recombining their own chromosomes. I guess when really takes a really good look at the biology of sex in animals, which includes humans, the assertion that there are only two sexes is well - wrong.

So a penis defines a man — a penis. What about male animals that don’t have penises? What if a person is born with no penis but has the XY chromosomes? Is it a man or a woman?

Not every man with a Y chromosome is male and not every person with XX is female. I think it’s been pointed out repeatedly that genitals, hormone levels, and chromosomes are not reliable determinants of sex. What those who clearly can’t accept trans people are totally ignoring is that numerous studies have found the differences between adult men and woman are largely influenced by the dynamics of biology and culture. Humans are not just biological entities, we are a combination of nature and nuture.

Could it be that what’s between your years is just as important as what’s in your pants. You are totally ignoring that humans have brains that create who they are, what they are, how they behave, and so forth. Insisting that there are only two sexes does not even come close to expressing the normal range of being human.

At the end of the day, no cutting off one’s penis does not make you a woman, why would it? But why are people not allowed to choose what gender they want to be? It’s called freedom of choice. Most people get to choose where they live, what profession they want to work in, if they want a partner, who their partner is, if they want children, if they want to learn to drive, and so on. So why is it not allowed to be able to choose what gender you live as? When people don’t want to live where they live, they move. When people don’t like their job anymore, they often look for and find a new one. When people start hating their spouse, they get a divorce. But when somebody strongly strongly feels they are not the biological sex of which they were born, why is it so bad to change that. It’s not a whim. It’s a decision that can cost a person a lot — including loss of their family, loss of income, being the victim of harassment and hate. Really, tell me one reason why a person can’t choose to live as another gender? Who is it going to hurt? Who are you to tell somebody what gender they are? You can say over and over a man born is a man and can’t be otherwise. Well, sorry biology just doesn’t dictate who you are. Whether a person is born a ‘biologic’ female or male is a moot point if they feel they are otherwise. You can be a male, and identify as a female. You can be a female and identify as a male. A trans person has simply made a decision to live as the gender they feel they are. Who has the right to tell a trans person that they don’t feel they way they do and thereby strip them of their own right to self-determination.

I wonder how many on this thread who just can’t allow people self-determination actually know a trans person.

As humans, we are all supposed to have basic rights — like dignity, fairness, respect and equality — regardless of who you are, where you live, and how you choose to live your life. This applies to trans people as well.

 

As far as we being a heterosexual species it does.

We are the most specialized and evolutionary advanced lifeform on the planet

We are not a lifeform that lives in the sea.

I asked you if a man cuts off his penis does he become a woman? Does a doctor creating a fake one on a woman turn her into a man?

Oh yea they are. If a DNA sample is provided to the FBI they can tell you is the suspect is male or female.

They are demonstrable and repeat. What do you think does the clothes they wear, how they move their hands, how long is their hair, whether they wear make up, whether they like flowers more than guns.

Accept trans people as the sex they are pretending to be? Accepting that someone is pretending does not make that someone the other sex.

What is different between the ears of a man and a woman that you can show in every case? If I were a woman how would I be different?

Then why is the left pushing it for young boys? Why do trans do it?

How about race should we have the freedom to choose our own race?

How about age, should a 16 year old be able to claim they are 21 years old? How about a 40 can they claim they are 66 and start collecting Social Security? I have brown hair can I demand you call me a blonde?

What about my choice not to engage in such nonsense and pretend?

So we should be able to choose EVERYTHING and ANYTHING we so choose? What if I choose to want to live in your house and eat your food?

If I knew them would I suddenly discover that men can change themselves into women merely by wanting it to be? That science has been wrong since there was science?

As humans, we are all supposed to have basic rights — like dignity, fairness, respect and equality — regardless of who you are, where you live, and how you choose to live your life. This applies to trans people as well.[/QUOTE]

ROFL well I don't know where that is stated in the constitution. Quite frankly I do not find any dignity in trans drag queens mocking and grossly stereotyping women nor is it respectful of them nor men pretending to be women and competing against them in athletic fair or equal.

 

Everyone who passed Bio 101 is laughing at you for the blatant fantasy of saying that there is a "heterosexual species."

 

Do you believe sterilizing someone turns them into the other sex?

We are about to hit the tipping point for lack or reproduction in this country and I have no doubt that future studies will lay some of that blame on the new sexual morals and destructive societal changes the left wants to impose on us.

Why should we encourage two same sex people to have a child created for them purposely deny that child either a mother or a father and doing so solely for their own selfish desires. You say we have TOO MANY people on the planet, well shouldn't that be the first place we discourage new children then?

 

And how do they operate differently and distinctly?

 

Lack or any rebuttal, substance or merit noted along with having to make up an argument I do not make.

Checkmate

 

And once again when all you have left are creating arguments for me you have nothing..............................checkmate again.

 

Interesting confession, as you've lacked any rebuttal, substance, or merit along with making no actual argument. Checkmate. I appreciate the surrender.

 

Another white flag from Bluesguy. Much appreciated.

 

Read links and studies presented.
Get informed. Don't expect to be spoon fed. Unless being uninformed is the goal.

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Some children insist, from the moment they can speak, that they are not the gender indicated by their biological sex. So where does this knowledge reside? And is it possible to discern a genetic or anatomical basis for transgender identity? Exploration of these questions is relatively new, but there is a bit of evidence for a genetic basis. Identical twins are somewhat more likely than fraternal twins to both be trans.

Male and female brains are, on average, slightly different in structure, although there is tremendous individual variability. Several studies have looked for signs that transgender people have brains more similar to their experienced gender.
Is There Something Unique about the Transgender Brain? - Scientific American
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Abstract
During the intrauterine period a testosterone surge masculinizes the fetal brain, whereas the absence of such a surge results in a feminine brain. As sexual differentiation of the brain takes place at a much later stage in development than sexual differentiation of the genitals, these two processes can be influenced independently of each other. Sex differences in cognition, gender identity (an individual's perception of their own sexual identity), sexual orientation (heterosexuality, homosexuality or bisexuality), and the risks of developing neuropsychiatric disorders are programmed into our brain during early development.
Sexual differentiation of the human brain: relation to gender identity, sexual orientation and neuropsychiatric disorders - PubMed (nih.gov)

 

So a homosexual male is now female? What is the cognitive difference between me and all other females? Again gender is determined by sex pretending to be the other does not make on the other. You are talking mental disorder here you know.

 

Nope that was yours when you could not deal with my arguments so had to make them up for me.

 

I do not. Sex is innate and not changeable

I doubt that but you are entitled to your opinion. If you really want to see what is causing people to have less children you should look at polls. Financial and emotional reasons are at the top (daycare costs, healthcare cost, education costs, housing costs, and the stressors of not making enough to support themselves much less children).

You know, all the things republicans scream is the responsibility of the individual and shouldn’t be price controlled or subsidized by our taxes. I guess it’s easier to scream it’s someone else fault, in this case - the gayz.

Again, I think we should celebrate stable and loving families. While two biological parents is always preferred I don’t think the others should be ignored or condemned.

 

I don’t find dignity in transphobic bigots.

 

Why would we ban them? What harm are they causing?

 

OK, this is too complicated I guess.

Is it a mental disorder to also not comprehend reality of LGBTQ's? Or understand the studies behind them?

 

I voted yes in all schools because I believe they have a mental disorder

 

I would argue they have a mental disorder and are unfit to teach.

 

Go ahead and argue it.
Post your evidence based on studies/data/facts.
Post your credentials on the topic so it's understood what kind of training you have and expertise of the topic.

 

Psychological distress and disability aren’t inherent to being trans, so being trans doesn’t meet the definition of a mental disorder (a psychological state that causes significant distress and disability).

Should all teacher’s who have a mental disorder be considered unfit to teach? Do you know what stigma is? Does mental illness generally make people dangerous to children?

 

I was quite clear in my statement why are you trying to turn it into something it was not? It's not complicated at all science is quite clear on the matter, we are a heterosexual species with males and females.

 

I don't find dignity in defending men who make a mockery of women and insult the vast majority of them.

 

Yep and no matter how much surgery or artificial means a man is still a man and a woman is still a woman.

And women and men choosing to engage in homosexual lifestyles your claim that it is good they produce less notwithstanding, it was YOU who injected that into the conversation remember.

I have no idea what point you are trying to make here.

Encouraged and supported and sanctioned is the issue. What is more important the well being of the child or the desires of the adult?

 

And there you have it. You've made an incorrect statement.
If you'd say, about 88% of living creatures are heterosexual, you'd be more correct.
But it's not, never has been, never will be 100%.

 

I don't care about other creatures I care about the human species and the biology of humans.