Should we ditch the Australian 'secret ballot'.

The legislators are our representatives. They work for us.

Trump voters do not work for you, so your plans to identify them and doxx attack them will just have to go unrequited.

Don't worry, leftists are out there attacking Trump voters every day anyway.

 

I noticed that you referred to it as a 'nazi vision', without knowing anything about how the Nationalsozialist Deutsche Arbeiterpartei used and employed the secrecy of the ballot to gain power. They were very successful with secret ballots

 

That's exactly what it is.

Unless people think and do the things you want them to do, you want them identified.

I wonder why.

 

This is not some special rule for trump voters. Its for all voters who expect to have a say in who governs the behavior of others, and how those they select want to do their governing. Voters want a hell of a lot of power without any accountability for what they do with all that power, just as legislators do. That needs to end.

 

Public voting did not hide some voters but not others. I am more than willing to have my vote cast just as publicly, as well as my friends, my neighbors, and coworkers. I am not a coward, hoping to hide behind a curtain, while I manipulate the government than impacts on you. That Obama vote I cast in 2008, is yours to see!

 

Yet that's how you want it used.

Voters aren't accountable to your desire to make them change their minds.

What needs to end is you thinking you have any say in how other people vote, think, or speak.

The only place that's going to exist is in your fantasies.

 

Again with the cowardice thing.

Why would people be afraid of who they vote for unless they were living in your Nazi dreamscape?

 

Your cowardice suggests you have something to fear or something to be ashamed of. I don't. I will walk right up when asked for my vote and announce my vote for Obama, or Clinton or Stein, or Sanders or whoever and stay there to see it recorded for posterity in that poll vote book. That way I cannot impact who governs you, and how, from the shadows, in secret.

 

My favorite thing to do is wear my MAGA hat and wink at people when they stare at me.

I know you're not afraid to wear your Obama support.

That's because the only people who get attacked are Conservatives, and they're attacked by those like you who want to silence us, as you've admitted in this thread. Nazi's. Brownshirts. Antifa. Call them whatever you want. No difference really.

If you ever cross paths with a guy wearing a MAGA hat that winks at you, go ahead and test me.

 

I don't know, I am not the one in here who is running scared. Cowards are fine people, I suppose but they should not be impacting on government in secrecy. They may need to put some big boy pants on if they want power to harm others .

 

there is another conservative wallowing in his victimhood again. Get over yourself. Vote in public or stay home and cower under your blanket.

 

No, you're the one trying to run a concentration camp.

As I said before, try us.

 

Since the only place public voting exists is in your megalomanical imagination, I'm just going to have to laugh at you.

 

So the elections prior to the late 1800's were all about running a concentration camp. Was that what Jefferson, and Madison were doing when they voted in PUBLIC using their own voice and a poll book and a register and set up systems by which people voted in PUBLIC for elections that they benefited from?

 

Hell, go ahead. Then Democrats will be exposed for millions of votes they get that come from illegals and cemeteries.

I voted for Ted Cruz in the primaries and Trump in the general. Now it's apparent that Cruz doesn't hold a candle to Trump. Trump has killed it for 3 years even with the crazy ass left putting up roadblocks 24/7. FYI, I include RINOS in the left....because they are.

I'm in Texas and I own 2 AR15s. If you would like to try to come take them or take away my vote, my address is available.

The entire country has been subjected to the retardation of California and their judges forever. Why in the hell should California take away the rights of voters in the rest of the Country?

P.S. Topics like this shouldn't be made by a moderator who is supposed to be even-handed.

 

And the reason we switched was because of people like you.

You still never answered the question: What benefit do you have in knowing who someone votes for?

There's only one reason, and it's as obvious as everything else you've said.

 

Those who seek to silence others always seek more power to do so.

 

Lol. I am not a moderator. I am a staff member who is a 'greeter'. When I greet people , I do so without discussing my views on voting. I am glad you are in favor of public voting for whatever reason.

 

Do you say "Hi, welcome to the concentration camp. If you tell me who you vote for, I'll see about getting your release".

 

And I keep answering. I have the benefit of living in a republic that holds transparency in the use of power, is vital to protecting ourselves from tyrants and corruption. When you vote, you impact public policy. When you do it in secrecy, nobody knows why and nobody knows what you gained from your vote. Its no different from any other use of power in public policy.

 

Why are you so scared of people knowing how you voted? Why do you hide behind that curtain?

 

Do I ****ing look scared? I told you who I voted for and I'll do it again and twice on Sunday. There is NO ONE in the Democrat clown car that could hold Trump's jock strap.

 

Well, the butterfly ballot of FL Bush vs. Gore was designed by the local democrat controlled voting district. It was not a statewide thing, but an abberation that happened in a dem controlled district.

 

1. Not per the Constitution.
2. yes, it is.

There is no right to a secret ballot in the Constitution. Not saying that I disagree with the secret ballot (I think it's a good idea), but it's not written in stone.

 

The constitution is not a list of rights Americans get!!!! It is 100% the limits of Government!!!!