Should we help the kurds take Raqqa from ISIS

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Should we help the Kurds take Raqqa from ISIS

Poll closed Jul 17, 2015.
  1. yes, lets bomb the crap out of them

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    14.3%
  2. yes, but lets send a task force in to minimize collateral damage

    2 vote(s)
    28.6%
  3. yes, lets starve them out.

    2 vote(s)
    28.6%
  4. no, leave them to there own devices

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    28.6%
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  1. Le Chef

    Le Chef Banned at members request Donor

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    My support is for tactical bombing and rocketing of any group on Earth that is engaged in genocide. ISIS qualifies on a number of levels, but no I would not want one of my children on the ground in Syria fighting anyone. Am I a hypocrite? Maybe. Not an easy situation.
     
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    ISIS' minister of information killed in airstrike...
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    Airstrike Kills Senior ISIS leader Known as 'Dr. Wa'il'
    Sep 16, 2016 | A precision munitions airstrike last week near Raqqa, Syria -- a stronghold for the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria, or ISIS -- killed a senior leader believed to have played a part in the terror group's gruesome "execution videos," the Pentagon said in a statement Friday.
     
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    BBC: Syria conflict: Aleppo civilians suffer 'unthinkable atrocities'

    Civilians in Syria's second city of Aleppo are suffering unthinkable atrocities, Amnesty International says.

    A new report alleges that government forces and many rebel groups are committing war crimes on a daily basis.
    ...

    Aleppo barrel bombings
    January 2014-March 2015

    3,124 civilians killed

    35 rebel fighters killed


    3 schools hit in attacks

    17 hospitals damaged - many forced into underground basements

    23 mosques damaged or destroyed

    Source: Amnesty International/ Violations Documentation Center​

    'Systematic attacks'

    Amnesty's report says that from January 2014 to March 2015, government aircraft launched continual attacks using barrel bombs - oil barrels, fuel tanks or gas cylinders packed with explosives, fuel, and metal fragments - on rebel-held areas of Aleppo.

    The vast majority of fatalities from the eight attacks Amnesty investigated were civilians. According to the Violations Documentation Center, an activist-run monitoring group, barrel bombings killed at least 3,124 civilians and 35 rebel fighters in Aleppo province over the same period.

    Amnesty said evidence suggested the air campaign in Aleppo had "deliberately targeted civilians and civilian objects", and noted that it was a war crime to intentionally make those not directly participating in hostilities the target of attacks.

    "Such a systematic attack on the civilian population, when carried out as part of government policy as appears to have been the case in Aleppo, would also constitute a crime against humanity," it added.

    Armed opposition groups in Aleppo were also accused of committing war crimes by using imprecise weapons such as mortars and improvised rockets fitted with gas canisters called "hell cannons" in attacks that killed at least 600 civilians in 2014.

    The report also documented widespread torture, arbitrary detention and abduction of civilians by both government security personnel and rebels in Aleppo.


    My Russian friend, you cannot just pretend that most civilians killed by the Syrian air force are "ISIS", call them "ISIS", just to fiddle the figures to falsify the accuracy of the Syrian Arab Air Force's dumb barrel bombs.
     
  4. Balancer

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    Unfortunately, You are very much exposed to Western propaganda and do not want to see the real facts. Alas, I can not help You here. I, at least, know different points of view on this situation — and from the West, and from Russia, and from Syria. You believe only the Western media. But they give a very one-sided and distorted picture. And, sometimes, outright lies.
     
  5. waltky

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    `Do sumpin', even if it's wrong' policy may not work...

    How The US Is Setting Itself Up To Botch The Battle For Raqqa
    US officials are beginning to talk about the push to seize ISIS's capital in Syria, but Turkey and the Syrian Kurds they consider rivals have the potential to complicate matters.
     
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    Not a kind of double morale at least?
    Sure, particularly the US should since Bush Jr. and his criminal attack be very careful in use of ground forces anywhere, but a pilot can be shot down same way (if it is no UAV of course).
     
  7. waltky

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    Fall of Raqqa Key to Disrupting Terror Plots...
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    Fall of Raqqa Key to Disrupting Terror Plots: US General
    Oct 26, 2016 | The U.S. needs to support an offensive to retake Raqqa to disrupt terror plots against the U.S. and Europe, a U.S. general said.
     
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    No. We should precision nuke the entire region where large population centers are located.
     
  9. waltky

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    According to this weeks edition of Frontline2 on PBS, civil war...
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    The Fall of Raqqa and the Islamic State: What Comes Next?
    20 Mar 2017 | Joseph V. Micallef is a best-selling military history and world affairs author, and keynote speaker. Follow him on Twitter@JosephVMicallef.
     
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