Should we increase our intake of refugees?

Hmmm,
that will devide this forum, I bet:

https://www.sbs.com.au/news/the-australian-community-crying-out-for-more-migrants

Any thoughts?
Note that I am not keen on brownish slurs.....

Reg.

 

The Muslim migrants in Norway are supposedly “refugees.” The Somalis there are supposedly fleeing violence in their homeland. But they apparently don’t think that their homeland is too dangerous for them to send their children back there, so that they learn their Islam straight with no chaser, including hatred of and contempt for the West, and then come back to Norway. Yet Norwegian authorities don’t seem to have put together the Muslim migrants’ refugee status with their practice of sending their children to these Qur’an schools.
Not if theyre going to do this...they are refugees..supposedly with no money...but who pays for this???

 

Yes, Australia needs more refugees. Hang on, we can get you 30 or 40 million in a year's time. Enjoy!

 

So OZ is not without it's insane SJWs?

 

Oklahoma has a Myanmar population, refugees brought in part from our churches who some how are sponsoring t hem. They seem to be wonderful new citizens and our schools are impressed with how enthusiastic the kids are though they have language classes specialized for their needs. They are not wealthy for sure....but have jobs, some have thriving businesses. I've had the opportunity to talk with these new immigrants and based on that, Austrailia would do well to receive more.

 

Myanmar are true refugees....if they are Christian or Muslim...both are persecuted by their own government. Most of Ok's are Christian but both religions are represented.

 

OP

We're increasing ours . . .

"Furious MPs urge Sajid Javid to call in the Navy to resolve the Channel migrant crisis after 92 found since Christmas"

And it's about 500 since last November. Sounds to me like the French are kicking them out of France 'cos of Brexit. But hey, 'The more, the merrier', as the loony Left will be saying. At the risk of repeating myself, Those whom the gods wish to destroy they first make mad?

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/8078111/sajid-javid-navy-channel-migrant-crisis/

 

One thing concerning is that the article uses refugees generically and use the Myanmar as the example in the story. Myanmar are anxious to assimilate into their adopted country but that isn't always the case for every immigrant group out there. Countries need to be choosey and should have expections of assimilation from those they invite in.

 

No I don't think we should, it doesn't matter if we increase refugees by 100% it won't even make a dent in the amount of people seeking asylum.

The reasons I think we shouldn't is because
a) I think we should decrease migration overall due to the need for better infrastructure to support the number of people we already have and
b) we are moving towards an economic slowdown... not the time to increase the number of people who will need government welfare... there will be enough Aussies standing in line for assistance.

 

Just a note regarding SBS this is the second twisted/Fake news report I have read from SBS in the past 24 hours. Not sure what is going on there...

The other was this one where security asked people to clear a beach after curfew and 2 rapes, SBS twisted it into a race story

Race row after Cape Town beach cleared by guards
https://www.sbs.com.au/news/race-row-after-cape-town-beach-cleared-by-guards

what really happened (from local sources)

https://www.iol.co.za/news/south-af...ton-beach-to-lay-charges-against-ppa-18633527

 

Years back our pri school had 101 students, now its down to around 60. We need fresh blood in country WA. I don't care where these people come from, as long as they don't cause trouble. To help a new arrival until him/her gets their act together, is fine with me.
Yes we are in an economic downturn, and hopefully that changes when Labor wins the next election.
We need to look forward, and not to the past....
Reg.

 

Country towns throughout Australia have been dying for decades, because theres nothing there to keep
people there, hence everyone leaves and goes to the cities.
Importing a few somalis to Bullamakanka isnt going to solve the problems, the towns
will still die

 

Without country towns, nothing to eat for the city mob.....
We need you, and you need us......
Reg.

 

No argument there....but if a country town is to survive, there first has to be jobs for those
who live in the town, and homes for them to live in. If you have an influx of say100 calathumpians
into a country town, where do they work, where do they live, how do they pay rent with no money....
This is the exact reason that people leave. Not everyone wants to shear sheep, or become
a farm labourer or work in the mines when they leave school because their father did.
Are any of those 100 imports qualified to do anything?
Will they be given jobs under the diversification recruitment programme introduced in recent
times by the loony left. If so, what about the jobs for the locals..do they just whistle dixie...

 

I believe the government is already addressing the "country Australia immigration issue" by making it a requirement that immigrants from certain categories must remain in those areas for a certain number of years

https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/r...s/news-story/02c472284ffc529d4180e7db4d857520

 

Since we're all the results of refugees I suppose the only questions that remains are: Do we have room? Is there a need for people to fill the vacancies in the job market that are not being filled?

 

The entire planet has this problem of dealing with/accepting refugees.
It is easy for the bleeding hearts to support immigration, but they really dont know what theyre talking about.The bulk of Australia is a desert, it has no water, and its very hot. If people think that because Australia is so big, we should accept more immigrants, then maybe they should go and try living at Uluru, or Birdsville, or Coober Pedy. No...why not...
I found this clip interesting, so Ill steer everyone towards it again...

 

good clip, alternatively you could take a stroll through the third world... also drives it home.

He says the answer is to help the refugees within their countries, I agree however it is unfortunate that US foreign policy over the last 70 years have been counter to this strategy....sanctions and corruption drives inequality and serve to exacerbate the problem.. China's Belt and Road is also adding to the problem

 

NO INCREASE IN REFUGEES.

Refer them to Latin America.
Argentina. Chile.


Although possibly, White South Africans and similar(s) from Africa
deserve an Australian exception. Language, cultural values shared.


Moi

No Refugees for !​

 

Moi I think the time has come and gone for that... Turnbull's impotence & cowardice, and Bitchop's stone cold heart unfortunately left the South African farmers out in the cold.

I just wanted to point out that in the video Billy posted, the speaker mentions the "brain drain" the loss of the educated due to migrant intake usually based on skills. For South Africa in particular, the brain drain has contributed to the collapse of the country... although certainly not nearly as much as mismanagement and corruption

SA facing a skilled-worker ‘brain drain’ as 7% of whites have emigrated since 2002

https://www.thesouthafrican.com/sa-...ain-as-7-of-whites-have-emigrated-since-2002/

 

US foreign policy will always be controversial to say the least. I feel that we have now created our own immigration policy and no longer obey the UN Immigration Pact.
Third World countries will always exist, refugees/asylum seekers/economic wanderers will always exist.
When I was a child attending sunday school a long time ago, we were always encouraged to pray for the people in Ethiopia suffering from drought and famine.
Nothing has changed, nor will it, only place names and dates... (except now there are more wars)
It seems that until the year dot, western civilization will always have to pour billions of dollars
into third world countries. Either that or support the economic wanderers in our own countries.
Gone are the days where immigrants help build a nation. I would imagine the large percentage
of economic wanderers do nothing to help build a country.
With decreasing birth rates world wide, and the loony left spruiking about human rights, the only answer
is to reduce immigration, and tighten citizenship regulations.
Unfortunately a lot of people are brainwashed by the loony left and MSM seem to support
their causes and lie about immigration, suggesting that Australia is so big, immigrants could
help build a city in the middle of nowhere...good luck with that.

 

Skilled migrants do contribute to an economy, however they've also played a big part in stagnant wages. They've filled all the Baby boomers "rental" properties and the government made lots of money in taxes, from both the migrants (whose education they did not have to fund) and from Australians buying properties to rent to the new migrants. Actually when you think about it they've basically contributed to more wealth inequality the irony is amusing

We are now facing infrastructure issues particularly in Sydney also in Melbourne and potentially a downturn. With a housing collapse and people start losing their homes, these people are going to get very pissed off if government increase the refugee intake and news outlets start running stories the like of migrants transferring hundreds of thousands of dollars to their home countries... they won't care whether money laundering is behind it.

I do agree there will be no cities rising from the desert, not sure who's tossing that one around...

 

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?...5AE741242E405C78DD545AE741242E40&&FORM=VRDGAR
This clip starts half way through the programme, but you will get the gist of it...

 

The obvious solution is a White Homeland in Africa
where they manage their own internal affairs.

Since that is not going to happen,
we are just witnessing a slower version
of Rhodesia to Zimbabwe.

Some say you can't have guns and butter.
Moi says Sub Sahara Africa can't have "democracy" and a working nation.


Just say, "No!" to refugees.
Trump even spoke to changing immigration to favor, better quality.
Educated. Able to pay taxes rather than absorb them.
<the horror> <the horror>

 

Theres that too...together with a 1400% increase in people wanting to refinance, and half those applications being refused...oh and the auction clearance rate in Sydney is down to 25% recently...and they ask if we want more immigrants...no thanx...