Should white people be discriminated?

Having to repeat the above to stay on point and drown out the trolling.

 

I don't understand. What's a "white" person? Aren't we all just people? Are you saying we should discriminate between different types of people, and classify them as white and non-white? And if so, upon what basis should we discriminate?

 

To different people it means different things. And you know we aren't all just people. Some, wanting to disenfranchise the whites will claim there is no such thing as race until the non-white feels slighted.

With me, personally, I see white as part race / part culture including, but not limited to: White, Anglo Saxon, Scandinavian, Germanic, Teutonic and related people that are Christian.

 

A handful of dumb*** white supremacist do not represent the White race or the whole of the Whites in the US. I remember the raids of Golden State Fence Company (contracted to build border fences and fences from prisons to military bases using illegal aliens. Mel Kay posed a conflict of interest in being housed in a facility in-which his company built the fence. In one case a federal Judge even acquitted Tyson Food Inc because it was a too big to fail company, and the list is long.

Yes of course the government has pre-drafted playbooks like the Patriot-Act most of them were written by the CIA, just sitting around on a self awaiting presidential approval (like Operation Northwoods that JFK shot down only months before he was shot down and Bush Jr. picked it up and implemented in 2001). The media went ballistic saying that it would have been impossible to do in 2001, but the CIA felt it was very possible to do in 1962.

I'm not sure who you are that Rep. John Linder would invite you to some 1998 townhall meeting only to sweep your argument under the rug (I did try unsuccessfully to find a YouTube video of it), but I have a feeling that you didn't have the clearance to talk about it then or since then. My guess is that you were just feeding off the buzz. Central America is practically off-limits for discussion in the US because it's a CIA slush-fund. The fact that you're even still alive right now suggest that they didn't think you had any solid evidence on what you were publicly talking about. Life is not a spy novel, don't play with it. I remember back in 2002 when I made Langley nervous and then went to the National Zoo for the day, driving home my car mysteriously died while driving home across the American Legion Bridge. That became a jurisdictional issue for police and towing, so the feds took over. They took my car to a garage on the other side of DC just outside of the naval yard. After some "repairs" I was able to go pick it up again, but the radio started acting funny, so I stopped and popped the hood to find a GPS tracking system, and transmitter had been installed to a mic working out of my speaker system. This is about money, big money, not race. And the worst part is that it's not even about real money. They have mints down in the mountains of Columbia printing out ghost USD to fund black-sites around the world. It's completely illegal, off-the-books, and nasty stuff. If you think a National ID is bad then you need to look up V2K, because if they cannot find what's they're looking for they have no problem fabricating it.

 

I'm not the one pecking a keyboard and trying to be an Internet Commando. Nobody called you names. You're part of what's wrong in this country.

We have these people that hide in mommy's basement, rehashing the memes they learned from Hush Bimbo, Sean Vanity, and the other talking heads on talk radio. These guys live off their mothers and Uncle Scam while most of them are taking legal drugs and living off food stamps and charity.

Their ONLY claim to fame is how many times they've looked good on the Internet, NOT how many times they have made an actual difference in politics or law. They can peck away on their keyboards, but at the end of the day, not one of them has walked up to a man's face and spewed those cowardly names face to face. It's one more reason that people should discriminate against the white race.

Pycckia, you fail to impress me. You're here to waste bandwidth and prevent an actual discussion of the issues. Why don't you do something constructive with your life?

 

We aren't all just people? Are some of us something other than people?

 

I'm not going to fight a losing battle with people that have no idea what they're talking about. But you go on ahead, fight the good fight, save all us sheeple, and then come back to sit around the campfire and share stories with us of you heroism. I've heard that sermon preach for over 40 years and still seen nothing but bullhorns and sign-holders parading around make a bunch of noise getting their pictures taken before the riot squad tells 'em the show is over. Every time it always goes down the exact same way, that's where the term snowflake originated from. Their are smarter ways to get things done, but deaf ears hear no wisdom.

 

I am white and never owned any slaves so why should we feel ashamed? Yes I am somewhat racist but so are people of all colors but if a black person shows racism it is not considered racism because their ancestors were oppressed in the past so they can't be racist. If blacks don't want to be called the n word then they shouldn't call each other that even in their humor. If they can do it then everyone should be able to.

 

Are you saying that you feel racially n-word deprived?

 

Yeah right. You've been on the losing side for the last decade and a half. You haven't been IN the fight because you don't even know the major players past the last few years. Shoot all the B.S. you can, but those who have the experience can see through your smokescreen.

You and I both know that I'm not some bull horn carrying, sign holding parading malcontent - though I feel you probably exposed yourself. Your side has passed a lot of legislation over the last few years and the most likely victims of that legislation has been people within your own ranks. Great going there sport.

The fight for Liberty is not won with signs, posters, and political rhetoric. It isn't won by supporting political propaganda prostitutes that turn the tables on you the moment they get elected. The fight for Liberty begins with each person declaring their independence and becoming self sufficient. Liberty happens when you decide that government is dependent upon you, but you can survive without the aid of government. Self sufficiency is being able to make a commitment to never support any program that increases the size, power, and / or scope of government.

 

1) BEFORE 9 / 11 fighting the SSN for identification was being pursued by the John Birch Society and virtually every conservative organization in America.

2) Still haven't called you a name, only described your actions and linked you to the poseurs you hang with. BTW Diamond should be your next buddy

3) You do base your esteem on other people. Your mental midgetry and name calling is evidence of that

4) If you have to screw with people on the Internet and be a Keyboard Commando, I'm sure your mother would love to know what you're doing and maybe give you a few chores instead of playing around teasing people that you can't measure up to.

 

Stop being silly. There is no profit in it. You're nothing to anyone as my critics will attest to unless you are a part of some majoritarian group. The only other exception is that you can stand as an individual and fight your own battle against all comers. NOBODY, including you, sees themself a "just people." Left, right, Democrat, Republican, liberal, conservative, black, white - NOBODY identifies as "just people."

 

I agree with what you're saying, but if the issue always comes down to slavery, then you should do some hard core reading. Whites did not invent slavery and blacks aren't the only victims of slavery.
Saudi Arabia and Yemen were the last places that outlawed slavery and that didn't happen until 1962.

 

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Racial, religious, cultural, ethnic, gender or any invidious social, economic, and/or political discrimination that denies equality to other people is always wrong..

Hereditarily I'm a White Anglo Saxon Protestant but unfortunately my matriarchal ancestors were Quakers that fled from England to escape religious persecution in about 1750 but in time to be a part of the American Revolution (providing logistical supply because Quakers are opposed to military service).

I'm very proud to be a Son of the American Revolution. It's compelled me to learn a lot about the ideology that America was founded upon as well as knowing and understanding that White (WASP) Male Supremacy/White Nationalism of social conservativism (that we inherited from the arrogant British) that has always opposed that ideology. I'm also aware of the fact that "White Protestant Males" have always controlled our social, economic, and political institutions in the United States.

I've certainly benefited from being white as to all white people in America. We (whites) benefit socially, economically, and politically because White Protestant Men have always controlled the social, economic, and political institutions. It is a "privilege" in America to not be discriminated against because it's your demographic group that controls all forms of discrimination in the United States. .

White Protestant males as a demographic group are never discriminated against in the United States because it's the White Protestant Men that control the social, economic, and political institution.

I'm not ashamed of being a White Anglo Saxon Male because I openly oppose the White WASP Male Supremacists/White Nationalists that are and have always been responsible for the oppression of discrimination in the United States. Perhaps someday they're adopt the ideology of equality that America was founded upon but in the meantime they'll continue to be the oppressors that engage in invidious discrimination either overtly or inadvertently because of their prejudice. .

 

All the labels in the world won't change a person from being "just people" in the end.

A old Dodge station wagon is just an old Dodge station wagon regardless of how many National Park and tourist attraction stickers it has on the rear window.

 

So far all I've seen you do is name-drop to sound impressive and then point to SSN and White people as the culprits behind the curtain without any solution on what to do about it. You just want to rally the crowd just for the sake of seeing them get rallied up. Do you really think if you get enough signatures on a petition that you're going to storm into Congress and demand change? And that you're going to do so in blatant contempt and somehow magically they'll be receptive? You better have some Federal Judges in you pocket if that's the plan, but let me know the date you set for that operation to go down so I can be sure to witness it. They love loud people like that, because finding them and silencing them is so much easier. You have to be smarter than that if you want them to reverse what they already know is going to cost $765,000,000 at minimum to mandate and they're okay with that number. I would love to see E-Verify shut down, right along side every guest worker program, because it's costing us jobs, money, and it's not going to keep undocumented workers off the rolls.

It's going to instead be a loophole for more guest workers to overstay their visas long enough to pop-out an anchor baby and have a claim to citizenship. Illegals will get free medical, free education, and free food. They are criminals that will be treated better than US citizens, and all the while that they're getting a free-ride at our expense they are sending that money back home so the next family member in line can come over and do the exact same thing. The cartels love it because all that money goes directly to them. But you cannot just write your Congressman or ring their phones off the hook to change it because they've already spent that $300,000 bribe money on a new house or a boat for retirement, that's why they go into politics in the first place. Where else do you think you can become a millionaire working a job that only pays $2-300,000 a year that sells no products. They are just certified back-rubbers. They don't care about what your skin color is or what your legal status is, they just want to stay in office as long as they can to make sure that they never have to work or worry about the damage being done to everyday citizens. They know nothing about the working class, they are just a bunch of worthless lawyers, and they have an army of security around them to say "they don't care" because they don't need to care.

 

Not to mention blacks were often slavers themselves.

 

No I still say it but if it is ok for them to use it then it should be for everyone.

 

Well it's part of your 1st Amendment right, so it's not as if you're facing jail time (at least not unless you shout it out in a courtroom, I don't think the court would tolerate that no matter what color the person was).

 

Well, I only have two of them.

 

Why does it bother you that White guys rule. They just do. Others don't. You have player hate against yourself.

 

So, just like it's okay for blacks to use the N word, they can hold each other in slavery and it's okay?

 

OFTEN. They were the original slavers. Without them, there would have been no slaves.

 

Diamond,

You are both foolish and dishonest. To begin with I have not "dropped any names." If you mean John Linder, if any of you are an actual activist, then your local representatives have invited you to political gatherings. Only a poseur with NO political experience didn't know that. Diamond, you have NO political experience save of maybe voting and complaining. You just proved it.

Second point, son I have NOT asked a swinging richard here, or anywhere else, to sign a petition. That's about as effective as a eunuch in a brothel and most intelligent people know it. You should grow up and figure out, you don't have the experience it takes to be IN this conversation and you would benefit immensely by being a student before you try to be the head monkey of a political cause that is based upon ignorance, stupidity, racism just for the sake of hating people and easily led by left wing cow dung.

The fact that you call an entire group of people "criminals" absent Due Process illustrates why your side loses. The United States Supreme Court has determined that foreigners, even those without papers, have Constitutional rights. Don't hate me. I didn't make the ruling. But, what does that mean to the rest of you?

American jurisprudence operates off the principle of stare decisis. That's a fancy Latin term meaning let the decision stand. Since the 14th Amendment guarantees to all the equal protection of the laws, and since the United States Supreme Court says that even undocumented immigrants have rights under the Constitution, what applies to them will apply to all of you equally. When you insist on calling people "criminals" absent Due Process; when you refer to them as "illegal aliens" when they haven't even been charged with a crime, you give your blessing to the government to call you domestic terrorists, enemy combatants, racists, etc. or whatever it takes to screw you out of your Rights. Diamond is bi+ching about the treatment the government gives his kind, but it's his brand of bull horn lobbying that made it possible. I'd like to waste a few words from a founding father to Diamond:

"He that would make his own liberty secure, must guard even his enemy from oppression; for if he violates this duty, he establishes a precedent that will reach to himself." Thomas Paine

 

If people aren't here legally, then they're criminals. If you cannot figure that out then perhaps it's you that doesn't deserve to be engaging in such a conversation. Are you defending the criminals now because you happen to be one (or maybe your parents)? That's the biggest problem with what Democrats have been doing to cloud the immigration issue, they say "unless you commit a violent crime here" we'll turn the other cheek. That them being tolerant of what's already a criminal element, in hopes that once they allow the line-jumpers to gain citizenship hopefully they'll return the favor by voting Democrat. That's exactly why most legal Hispanics and other immigrants that gained citizen the right way don't vote Democrat. I'm native American so don't preach to me about immigration.

All that nonsense aside you still haven't explained your so great plan so I'm assuming you never had one. At least I originally assumed you had a plan but you just proved that my optimistic assumption that you did was wrong. Point well noted.