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  1. FatBack

    FatBack Well-Known Member

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    I know they say you're not supposed to leave a CO2 charged with gas for that reason.
     
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    And it's actually usable due to virtually zero recoil
     
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    After reading some more reviews on that 30 caliber break barrel I have to say I'm not very confident in that particular one.

    You might be best served by a 177 caliber spring piston for your needs. I would say a spring piston in 22 caliber but the 177 will have a flatter trajectory and it has plenty of punch to kill iguanas.

    Just be careful of it carrying over onto neighbor's properties. Have some kind of a back stop because it will travel some distance.
     
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    .177 cal is the standard and enough for pest control. We have ton of rats too. As a matter of fact I've had two ATT fiber optics internet cables destroyed by rats, and ATT charges me $99 every time they replace it. Now it has a steel tube around it, so it shouldn't happen again. True about neighbors, but we have a wooden fence so I can use that as a back stop. The other end is a canal, so I can't go in that direction.
     
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    For the clothes in work like that a good quality 10 pump is also worth a look. Iguanas are pretty easy to kill and if there's a shot that you would hesitate to take with a spring piston you might be able to get away with three or four pumps and kill the lizard without worrying about carrying over too far as long as you hit it in a good spot and get as close as possible first.

    We don't have them here in DeSoto county to speak of but just down the road about 30 miles in Charlotte county they're everywhere.

    I have seen a couple of Peter's Rock agamas around here but they are not near the pest that an iguana is.
     
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    I don’t have rats where I’m from, but if they’re anything like squirrels, insulation on wiring seems to be their top nutritional block. I’ve watched people shoot mice in their work living quarters with .22 LR. So your fence will likely be fine lol
     
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    .22LR is a firearm, so that is out of the question where I live.
     
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    Just got my 22 caliber Diana chaser CO2 air gun today.

    If you have an iguana problem I can definitely recommend this. It's not as powerful as a spring piston 22 but you don't really need that much power for backyard iguana elimination.

    If you keep your shots within 50 ft or less I'm confident this one can do the job just fine. I shot it today and it is tack driver accurate. It has a real suppressor on the end of the rifle barrel.

    For $130 you get the kit which includes the stock and the pistol and the rifle barrel. The moderator or suppressor is a fixed to the end of the rifle barrel with red thread lock.

    Both of the muzzles are threaded to accept the suppressor but due to us gun laws it is supposed to be permanent and unremovable but it could be removable in a vice but I wouldn't encourage anyone to break the law.

    Which is fine by me because I plan on using the rifle barrel most exclusively and that is the one that has the suppressor. This thing is whisper quiet. If your neighbors don't actually see it they will have no idea that you are shooting it.

    Ironically if you bought this air gun in the UK the suppressor is completely interchangeable between both barrels.

    It is also offered in the traditional air gun caliber of .177 but for iguanas I would definitely recommend the .22 for the extra punch even though the .177 will have a flatter trajectory to more distance but we're talking 50 ft ot less here for pest elimination, if there is any drop at 50 ft I certainly don't notice it.

    I find the open sites to be perfectly adequate but a scope would be a nice addition or even a red dot sight. It has a milled rail for 11 mm dovetailed fittings.

    I got the seven round rotary drum magazine which cost an extra $22 which is convenient because even though you still have to operate the bolt, you don't have to load each individual pellet with your fingers for every shot. But for your purposes either one would work fine.

    It gets a good 30 or 35 shots per CO2 cartridge before you start noticing a drop off but if I was going for iguana I would probably use the first 15 shots and reload the CO2 after that because they're fairly cheap and can be had for less than 50 cent a piece if you buy 40 at a time. I found a 40 pack of CO2 powerlets at Walmart last night for $17 plus tax. Even going out target shooting it's probably going to take me a long time to go through 40 of them.

    If you keep your shooting distance to 50 ft or less and you are a decent shot and can hit them in the head I have no doubt this will do the job. Also hitting them behind the front leg should also take them out quite nicely.

    I just got done watching a ton of YouTube videos where this gun can also be modified so many different ways, including conversion to PCP if one so desired.

    Very simple to work on and a ton of options as far as optics bipods and lights and so on.

    I got mine from pyramid air guns but airgun Depot is also another good source. The packing and the shipping went just as smoothly as anything you might buy from Amazon. In fact you can probably find it on Amazon as well but I would rather go to the independent dealer than give Amazon more money. They get plenty enough of my business as it is.

    If you're interested what you're looking for is called the Diana chaser. It even comes with a very nice zippered carrying case with a closed cell foam insert with cutouts for all of the different components. Also included is a couple of Allen wrenches and some extra grub screws and the o-ring seals that fit the end of the barrel, each barrel requires two of them and they are somewhat small o-rings so that's an added benefit in case you ever need to replace them. You may want to check into your local laws but I am sure that none of your neighbors would have a problem with you cutting down on the iguana problem. I hear they're also tasty to eat and if I was ever to bag a large enough one, I would try to tan the hide.

    If you skin one simply take the hide and use thumbtacks on a board and stretch it out flesh side up and put a layer of salt about an eighth of an inch thick all the way across the hide and within two days it will be cured but not necessarily tanned. That's another process to make the hide supple.

    So that is my independent review. In my opinion it's $130 well spent. Even if not using it for pest elimination it's just a fun little gun to shoot.
     
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    @Turtledude
    Thinking of dipping my toes in the water on my first PCP gun.
    This one seems to be an incredible value for the money and I only found one negative review out of possibly 30.

    This will accept the same magazine my CO2 Diana already uses. Shoots 22 pellets right around 900 ft a second while my CO2 Diana only does 500.

    Comes with the pump for roughly $350.... I only wish the reservoir could be a bit larger...... I'm thinking about it.... Been browsing reviews and choices for several hours now.

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    while I am not familiar with that model-Diana is a well respected brand that has made quality air guns for years-the first good airgun I shot was a "HI-SKOR" break barrel circa 1966 which was Diana
     
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    It is my understanding that all of their high quality models are German made and have always been but my CO2 gun is a china made one but even the fact that it is Chinese made... It's still a great gun.

    When you're talking Chinese made it really depends on what the thing is..... There's Chinese made and then there's Taiwan made.

    Pretty much everything out of Taiwan is Chinese garbage.... One Chinese made thing that I'm not impressed with is Chinese knockoff motorcycles.

    My tried and true Kawasaki was a bit over five grand MSRP and you can get a Chinese knockoff for about $2,200.

    But that Chinese knockoff will be very difficult to locate parts for and good luck if you are not mechanically inclined enough and you ever need to find a dealership willing to work on it.

    But as far as my Chinese made CO2 Diana.... I'm incredibly happy with it for the price point.


    According to 99% of the reviews on this particular gun..... It's a steal for the money.

    And I'm not certain if this Diana is the Chinese model or German model. I'm going to ask pyramid air gun Representatives that question before I pull the trigger financially speaking.

    In between my prior purchase experience and all of the customer reviews that I have seen.... Pyramid air gun has the best business model that I have been able to ever see.

    If you have to send something back for service or replacement, they are quick to send you the authorization to do so and there is also many different service plans if you are so inclined.

    I'm going to spend several days if not a week looking around because one should not be in a hurry to drop that kind of coin when you can get a better deal for much less or a much better deal for the same amount
     
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    A hand pump like that is the lowliest of options but it can work. Remember even though that may look like a bicycle pump.... That pump produces up to 3,000 PSI.

    I need to go and do more research on different guns and see what they look like when price compared with a pump because you can get a pump starting at $100

    . When it comes to using a hand pump that relatively smaller reservoir of that gun can play in your favor.

    Of course it just means it takes less pumps to fill it up to 3,000 PSI but it doesn't necessarily mean you're going to get more shots out of that same air pressure versus a larger tank.

    It just takes less pumps to get the tank up to its Max pressure
     
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    As far as using a hand pump like that on a true Big bore air gun?

    I guess you can do it but you're going to be there pumping a pump for about an hour for every shot you shoot....

    (I'm not exactly sure on that but I know you're going to be there for a long time with that pump trying to shoot Big bore bullets)

    I can already see it now.... As soon as I get my ass back to work I'm going to own a real compressor and a high quality gun.

    I'm fascinated with air guns anyways but of course I'm limited due to my mark of Cain....
    Eventually I aim to have one of the Condor models that is producing up to 800 ft pounds of energy with a 50 caliber projectile.

    I'm also looking to see if I can get my rights restored because that might be cheaper than buying high quality air guns.

    I enjoyed guns of every sort but unfortunately Uncle Sam says I can only play with air guns and antique firearms made before 1918 or reproductions thereof.
     
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    Hey @Turtledude

    I'm sure you're familiar with the North American arms line of mini revolvers offered in multiple configurations in both 22 long rifle and 22 magnum.

    But one thing you might not be aware of that I recently learned.... They also offer them.... In multiple configurations of 22 cap and ball muzzle loading varieties.

    They take a number 11 percussion cap just like most cap and ball and muzzleload a 30 grain projectile.

    But damn if every place I have looked is not out of stock.... About six different sources.

    Just confirmed the PCP rifle in question is indeed the German made model.

    About 4-in groups at 100 yards.
    Not too shabby for an air gun.

    The only thing I see that somewhat concerning about this air gun and if you look closely you can see it.... The barrel band leaves a little bit of unsupported barrel to be desired. Especially with the weight of that real and effective suppressor out of the front of the muzzle.

    I would probably use some epoxy resin to shore it up out near the end of the wood. Some claim it can affect accuracy especially if you are not very mindful of if your gun is getting beat up.

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    Right now this is probably the most tactically compact package on the whole planet that is commercially available for the most deadly air gun.

    You can probably get something custom-made from a machinist / air gun / gunsmith... But you're not going to get anything different with probably less than $3,000.

    A well-placed shot from this would stop a charging grizzly and that is no exaggeration.

    Now when they can make something like this semi-auto or even full auto there was going to be a lot more converts into the big air gun world

     
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    Air guns are to real guns what ersatz meat made out of petunias is to a real, red, two inch ribeye.
     

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