Since so many eyewitnesses heard boms/explosions, why would the NIST be so adament...

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    Soupnazi Well-Known Member

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    Because there was no evidence of explosives being used hence no reason to test for them.

    Fires cause explosions on their own especially in very large buildings which is why those eyewitness accounts mean nothing .
     
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    Well Im far from Joe popularity, but in my little circle alone I know 3 people that were on record having ballots mailed to them and no ballots to show for it.

    I suppose if you chose to take your eye off the ball by defending the massively insecure voting processes with well known history, (at least I know), of voter fraud, enough to change the outcome of an election, it will become your legacy and your childrens inheritance.

    What you or anyone else thinks of trump is notwithstanding to the pressing insecure (and getting worse not better) voting process, well not much I can say about that Bob.

     
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    The use of explosives was dismissed before the investigation therefore there was no reason to to test for them.
    Explosives cause explosions not fires. got any proof that fire causes explosions?
     
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    well that not the case at all. look at florida, was it dade county that had a -11000 (thats negative) 11000 votes for Gor on a hacked diebold machine.

    This was not reported by the election commission since the last thing they want to do is be looked at like we the asshelmets have a fraudulent voting system, it was discovered, like 911, through private investigation by private people and today that info is so buried in clutter you cant find it.

    Ive had courts completely disregard the evidence as if it were never entered ffs, which is why I no longer believe in the 'system' on any level, foxes gaurding the henhouse.

    I look at these voting processes and immediately see a plethora of ways that they can cheat, easily and with impunity.

    Look at my previous post, jessie will tell you why it will never change, it cant, (start at 31:15 forward), which is why they had the revolution in the first place
     
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    I'm not defending the voting process and as it is the electoral college is a sick scam on The People. I acknowledge that there was some reported voter fraud in this election and there probably was even more pervasive voter fraud in the past likely even enough to change the results of an election (e.g. Florida 2000 & Ohio 2004). However I haven't seen any genuine evidence of massive voter fraud in THIS election that may have been capable of changing the outcome. No one has produced any, not even those who squawked about it for months prior to, during and after the election in multiple court cases. If there was I certainly would like to see that evidence. None of that means I fully trust the voting system and especially not the candidates.
     
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    no fraudTHIS election? Mail in ballots, nuff said.
    There is a damn good reason several states outlawed them.
    because you have not seen it does not mean it did not happen.
    regardless what we think about trumpster he did set a record with I believe 75 million votes, the greatest majority by voting machine which is far more secure than mail in ballots.
    For mail in votes, your ballot goes through countless insecure hands prior to being counted, big red sign, wanna cheat here it is!
     
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    Please re-read what I posted.

    There is always some voter fraud in every election but we're talking about massive voter fraud and there is no legitimate credible evidence of that in this election that I've come across.
     
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    Wrong on both.

    There is not and has never been reason to test for them because none were used.

    Fire can cause explosions and routinely does in any building fire. Throw an aresol can into a fire and watch it blow up.
     
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    yes you are
    only a rank amateur would call an aerosol can bursting due to overheating an explosion in a demolition discussion.

    Just look at this explosion!
    [​IMG]
    :rolleyes:
    pure bullshit propaganda to claim none were used when no tests were performed.
    this is what you support

     
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    I am quite coorrect.

    An aerasol can exploding in a fire is an explosion whether you like it or not and it probves you wrong and only an immature brat whines about scale when peroven wrong which you have been.

    Many much larger combustables exist in any building, especially a large office building which has constant never ending maintenance requirements. They will ex0plode in a massive fire. Plain and simple.you are wrong.

    The propaganda is from conspiracy fools who ignore that there is no evidence whatsoever for explosives being used and therefore there was nho reason to test for them.
     
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    The similarity between the two is the misbehavior, the corruption of the judiciary and DOJ. They have been presented in each case with clear evidence of crimes, but have refused to engage in both cases. Dereliction of duty at the very least.
     
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    Simply not true.

    Neither case has any evidence of a crime
     
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    No legitimate evidence of massive voter fraud has been filed with any of the 60+ court actions by the Trump team that I or anyone else has ever seen. In those actions, attorneys for the Trump team should have been sanctioned for filing multiple frivolous lawsuits but judges, including many Trump appointees have bent over backwards to accommodate because of who Trump is and never took such action. Most did not even allege fraud, most alleged "irregularities". If there was legitimate evidence, I have no doubt that at least one massive voter fraud case out of 60+ would have succeeded. If there was real evidence it would be publicly available, these were not sealed court cases. This was unanimous, even in a corrupt judiciary it would be impossible to get ALL of 80+ judges to agree unanimously. Again, some voter fraud, likely, massive voter fraud, no evidence is known or shown to exist or whatever was alleged (i.e. thousands of dead people voting) has been thoroughly debunked.

    Yes the DOJ was in Trump's back pocket and even Barr said no evidence of any massive voter fraud was found after investigating despite insinuating there might be and it needs to be investigated early on. Barr was after all, Trump's personal stooge.
     
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    Barr has been an agent of the Deep State ever since Iran-Contra or before. Why Trump didn't know that when so many others did is beyond me. Trump is and has always been an idiot.

    The evidence of election fraud is ample. Hundreds of affidavits and many other examples.

    The prosecutors and judges treated that evidence the same way they treated evidence of the fraud of 911--they swept it under the rug, refusing to examine it.
     
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    Affidavits and "examples" (not sure what you mean by that) are worthless unless they are supported by evidence and facts. I know that intimately from one of the cases I personally and successfully won that used an affidavit as "evidence".
     
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    I know that humans are corrupt and that affidavits can be as false as claims made to the FISA court. I get it--humans can and do lie.

    In this case affidavits are supported by photographs and evidence, and by examination of voting records.

    For me, the icing on the cake is that the mainstream media pre-emptively declared that all the claims were false, and they would not cover them. That is the giveaway--deception is being practiced, just as with the 911 narrative.
     
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    If that were true at least one of these massive fraud claims out of 60+ would have succeeded. Yet and again, in most of these cases the plaintiff(s) did not even allege fraud and in fact denied it was a fraud allegation in one case. All of these allegations have been thoroughly investigated and none were sustained. Trump was setting this scam up well before the election and did everything in his power to commit election fraud himself, including sabotaging the Post Office. Why would you go along with the phony claims of a deranged pathological liar and his entourage of boot lickers?
     
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    Here's one for you Bob, from Jay Valentine at American Thinker.

    Industrial-Scale Election Fraud – Did It Happen? - American Thinker
     
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    Please spare us your bullshit fantasies.
    At least you have proven beyond a shadow of a doubt you have a total of zero physics education or understanding.
    The process is completely insecure yet people dont care as long as their team wins.
    thats exactly right, if you look at the questions asked during the kennedy assassination, they asked all the wrong questions and in doing so the guilty walked.
    Affidavit is only testimony and wrong unfactual testimony will go on the record as a fact if left unchallenged.
    fraud is incredibly difficult to prove.
    Producing an unchallengable fact is not equal to producing the truth.
    oh ffs, and thats different from hillary or biden for that matter how?
     
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    Theory is not evidence. And his water main example has well been debunked.

    That may be true but the affidavits were unsupported by evidence and not left unchallenged.

    And even more difficult when there's no supporting evidence.

    True and a fact by itself is not necessarily proof depending on what that fact is. Better to have that fact corroborate other facts or evidence. For example, molten iron is not evidence of a controlled demolition by itself.

    Yes it is very different. While other politicians such as your examples lie, this guy does it on a maniacal basis in your face with nearly every sentence, he's on a level I've never seen before. Other politicians at least try to be discreet about it, Trump makes no attempt at subtlety. For example, how many dozen times has Trump claimed to have a health care plan next week? Or that the virus will just disappear?

    I'm no fan of Biden and I truly hate Hillary and Bush and I'm not too fond of Obama either but I would have held my nose and voted for any one of these just to get rid of this monstrosity. In fact I would have voted for a rock just to get rid of him.
     
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    As usual I am stating facts which you cannot challenge or refute you can only sling **** in defeat because you KNOW I have demonstrated how inferior and uneducated you are and how wrong you are.

    That is proven beyond a shadow of a doubt

    The questions asked during the Kennedy assassination were spot on asnd the Warren Commission report stands as accurate and unchallenged.

    ASs usual I have proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that you know nothing about science physics or history.
     
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    That is true and the same is true for 911 where no evidence of controlled demolition or a cover up by the government exists.
     
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    Debunked? LOL Bob, you're starting to sound like a believer in the OCT.
     
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    the only thing you proved is guv negligence, and that you did very well, thank you
     
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    Yeah I hate to use the term "debunked" so "challenged" might be better.
     
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