Six far-right suspects held over possible attack on Macron

No only Algeria only became french departments, and still, most native algerian didn't had the french nationality. Anyway, what it was right to happe happened and they became indenpendant, so they had even less reasons to be in France. Morroco was a protectorate which explains why they still have their king.
The UDR and Giscard D'estaing are more considered as "centrists". Furthermore, by allowing abortion and contraception, it had for its time a rather strong leftist side. Anyway, that policy was carried too in the 80's and the 90's by all kind of traitors.
Which doesn't change a lot of things, the so-called patriotic right and the left are absolutly allied when it's about harm the french people, both are very happy to import people which will accept any salary and force poor native to lower their own salary.

 

Just can't deny what the articles say can you? So what was he arrested for, mailing bean parts? At the most, is this any different from sending bombs that can't explode?

 

Still carried out by far right Muslim extremists

 

I quoted what the article says! Can't you read? And where did I say that the cases were different? They are both terrorist acts. BTW I'll repeat this - the man who sent the ground up caster beans is a Christian who hated the media, sounds more right than left to me - perhaps he is another far right who thought that Trump was not enough right wing.

 

This is the first time I've ever seen anyone claim that the lack of free speech wouldn't affect the culture. That's a remarkable first.

You're not expected to agree nor disagree but to educate yourself on what's going on in Europe. You didn't watch the video and your response demonstrates that.

 

What makes these Muslims 'far right' rather than 'far left'? On which side does the Muslim religion usually fall?

 

The religion is right wing

 

Sorta both. We all know Islam delights social repressives but you shouldn't forget that it also strongly supports Arab nationalism and that can be about as leftist as it gets. Nasser and the Ba'ath were ostensible Allies of the old Soviets, not America.

 

It's true that the Ba'arth party were allies of the old Soviets but that was more due to the distrust of the west. Oddly, the west and the Soviets were allies of Iraq in the Iraq/Iran war though the US covertly supported the Iranians during the last two years to ensure that the war continued.

 

On a concrete way, it's the left which hold the door of open wide open for islamist extremists, not the far right.

 

I said ostensible. Nasser was an old school strongman who played both sides against each other. .

You mustn't forget that Soviet style Leftism is actually pretty much socially repressive too, rivaling even Islam in how much they hate sex, short skirts and having a good time

 

Sounds eerily like the Europe in the 1930's. What could go wrong ??

 

You're changhing the topic again. Just stay on topic, it's not difficult.
You claimed that European governments insist that their people adapt to the Muslim culture and, at the same time, dismiss people's whishes to continue with their own. I asked for realible sources for that claim. For some reason you haven't been able to provide any sources, instead you start talking about things that are off topic and provide a link to an article that talks about something different. You don't seem to understand what on topic/off topic means.

This is foolish arrogance. You are not even remotely in a position to tell me to educate myself on life in Europe. I live in Europe and know most certainly a lot more about life here than you. What the guy in the video, which I watched from start to finish, talks about is based on his personal agenda, which you seem to agree with, fine, I don't agree with his agenda. Many of the things he mentiones are way too simplified, but that's a different story. I mentioned that half the time he talks about the US and the UK (a Muslim foster family), I know because I watched the vid. He mentiones declining Jewish populations in Europe, his encounter with a Dutch official who mentiones the Canadian procedure of gaining citizenship, talks about European social democracy, his encounter with young Muslim women at the hotel and in the streets of Amsterdam, and that young Muslim men behave the same all over Europe, which is nonsense. Why don't you just provide the sources I asked for in my first question? You haven't been able to do that yet and these verbal gymnastics of yours are rather pointless. Where are your courses? (and try to stay on topic)

 

And yet so many leftists defend Islam and anyone complaining is "Islamophobic". Muslims ally themselves with the Democratic Party in the US and I'd wager they do the same thing in other western democracies also. Check out Keith Ellison's connection to the Democrats and Muslim newbies to Congress. https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/13308/ilhan-omar-rashida-tlaib

 

What sort of evidence would be required before you'd accept that islam is adversely affecting their traditional western European culture and in doing so are being supported by the government. In the media perhaps? The theater? Dress? Neighborhoods? What area of culture interests you most and we can look at it.

 

I've taken the liberty and deleted some parts of this quote, hope that's ok, the mods usually say one shouldn't do that.
The question was not whether Islam affects European culture and in what ways, I'm quite familiar with the debates here.
Let me repeat: Are there any reliable sources that prove that "European governments insist that the people adapt to the Muslim culture while ignoring or dismissing the wishes of the inhabitants to continue with their own cultures"?
This is the topic, nothing else. Are there sources that clearly support this claim?

 

There is this. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...racism-accusations-islamophobia-a7995181.html

and this https://www.forbes.com/sites/rogers...-children-political-correctness/#2235798754ab

and this https://www.pressgazette.co.uk/british-press-refuses-to-print-muhammad-cartoons/

Those are examples of the law and the culture. I'm uncertain what more evidence you might need.

 

That's because the left do defend minority groups in general and in the US Muslims are regularly attacked by the right. None of this is related to whether Islam is right or left wing

 

If you got an argument, than lets have it. I'm not interested into being interrogated with no point.

 

Last time I checked, the people you claim did not have a French citizenship, still voted in Algeria when it was a French department.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Union_of_Democrats_for_the_Republic
Political position Right-wing

Your claim that it was a left wing who welcomed those immigrants in: historically incorrect and a total joke.

 

You have no point unless you define your terms.

 

Not really, there were a distinction between french people and french citizens with a status for locals called "indigenat". Which doesn't change they got their indenpendance and so loose any right to be called french after that event, except if they were harkis.

The UDR which stoped to be the ruling party in 1973, so you're basically ignoring 70 % of the french politcal life of the 70's. Mass migrations started in the 70's, and by the way, you continue to lie, because it occured masssively under Valéry Giscard D'estaing, and he was consider center right. It was kept under the 14 years of Mitterrand, a socialist president. It have to be noticed that Valéry Giscard D'estaing was considered center right because France was almost red at this time, he was still against death penalty (even if he did nothing to not be against people which elected him) and allowed abortion, and both of that is leftist work.
But yes, the right did nothing to prevent this disaster, simply to weaken the working force. Either Chirac or Sarkozy never did something enough to prevent that.

In a concrete way, it's however leftists which always defend migration, the right wing is hostile but their leaders still let that massive migration, betraying in the process the french people.

 

And if anyone protests or even questions these policies they are labeled racists and may lose their jobs.

 

In France, yes and no. You can't fire someone as it please you and you need to justificate your decision. The political convictions of someone aren't considerate as a valid one, and an employer could face judicial consequences. However yes, you could still face persecutions for that, especially of the antifa.

 

Oh I spot you're refusing to take into account that the people you claim they did not have french citizenship, voted. And the idea that if they weren't French, meant they were stateless... by the millions... ridiculous and impossible when they vote.

And you said previously... and they are there only because of leftist policies.
And I said.. you're lying since they are there because of the right! I sourced it.
Discussion is over.

That is 1981. And you said repeatedly the immigrants started to come in 1970.
You're just fake news when claiming immigration was leftist policies. Period.