Six suspects in 7 million dollar fentanyl-Heroin ring released with no bail.

Nice mini-meltdown. This goes against the Trump/RW ideology of filling our prisons with drug offenders.

 

The State of New York comptroller’s office? I don’t know, is this a trick question? States raise revenue in many ways. Sales tax, property tax, income tax, tax on businesses and corporations, payments of fines and tickets, interest on monies and dividends, federal grants, auctioning and redistribution of seized property etc.

 

Graphic evidence that many Americans are extremely ignorant. Lets take a basic 7th grade American National Government class. One of the duties for The President of the United States is to appoint FEDERAL judges. These are judges that work in FEDERAL court rooms such as in the US 5th District Court of Appeals. There are also other judges in the country that work on the state level. These judges are either voted in by citizens of that municipality or appointed by a state government system. There is no direct or indirect correlation between state and federal judges.

With this knowledge in mind the State of New York judge that allowed bail to be zero dollars for these 6 presumed innocent defendants did so at the request of the New York District Attorneys Office. President Trump did not appoint either one of these elected/hired officials that were responsible for this process.

 

I fully understand that fact. I also fully understand the fact that Trumps appointment of FEDERAL judges will help correct the overabundance of left leaning "progressive" judges that have migrated into our justice system, for you see, if a lower court makes a decision that is brought to the Supreme Court and they decide not to take it up, the lower court ruling stands.
As for local state judges, yes I have a say in who gets elected. In many states flipping them into judges that will stop the nonsense is up to the voters and influenced by the Governor.

 

We've had no-cash bail in the UK/Commonwealth forever, society didn't collapse, financially backed bail benefits no one except bondsmen and bounty hunters.

 

well someone not gonna be happy with them losing 7 million of their dollars, maybe they wanted them released

 

It’s called trolling.

 

the reality is, as long as people demand these drugs, gangs will exist to supply them, the war on drugs does not stop drug abuse, that happens legal or not, it just funds gangs and makes criminals of those that do not abuse

rich people doctor shop... just different kinda drug dealers...

"Rush Limbaugh Arrested on Prescription Drug Charges"

https://www.nytimes.com/2006/04/28/us/rush-limbaugh-arrested-on-prescription-drug-charges.html

 

If you fully understand the difference between the state and federal judicial systems then why did you post

Trumps appointments of federal judges have nothing to do with this case. It seems to me that you were just being a Trump basher like the rest of the liberal left.

 

I reside politically just right of Attila the Hun.

 

While I agree with legalizing all drugs that isn't the point of this thread. We are a nation of Laws and as of this point possession of Fentanyl is illegal. 7 million dollars worth is a tad more than simple possession and strongly suggests intent to distribute and trafficking. Bail, in this instance, is warranted IMO. With the money involved; psychopathic indifference involved in selling a drug that will knowingly and necessarily be adulterated and sold to users with widely varying purity and dosage; and the defendants connections to Dominica with its unique extradition treaty that leaves assets untouched by both the US and the Dominican Republic I see the defendants as a flight risk on face value. However, it appears that the defendants don't have criminal histories, are well connected in their communities, and that the evidence for most of them isn't as strong as the headlines suggest.

Now, on the question of bail. I agree with the State of NY and others that bail has become anachronistic and an injustice. For those that cannot afford bail It has become a tool of the State to compel guilty pleas in lieu of setting in jail awaiting trial for years. It is also true that incarceration head counts produce revenue for the Department of Corrections in the jurisdictions involved. It is also true that for the most part Bail Bonds and the Bail Industry places serious burden on defendants way out of proportion to the risks and statistics involved with failure to appear. It's an industry that needs to be severely scaled down, especially for misdemeanors and nonviolent felonies.

We're now a watched surveilled counted followed and easily captured society. Hiding from a warrant is a bad bet and running from one for life would require a skill set combined with some unique inherent traits and timely life circumstances that only a very very small percentage of the population possess. Back 100 years ago moving to a new jurisdiction, county or state and assuming a new name (or not) was easy. There was a need then for a service that could travel from jurisdiction to jurisdiction tracking down fugitives, today not so much.

 

You sure like herring.

 

Uh, I live in NY and this is the Democrats 'bail reform law.'

https://nypost.com/2020/01/17/state-democrats-stay-the-course-on-bail-reform-law-despite-outrage/

I see IQ's have fallen sharply while I've been away. At least research before you comment.

 

This is the absurdity of Americas drug laws!

Seven million dollars of Fentanyl might, I mean MIGHT, equal 5 thousand dollars cost of that drug. Call it 10,000 dollar worth at retail. But $7 million as illegal drugs!

Like cocaine. About the cost of a Big Mac!

But it's not fair to compare costs of the few pennies (literally) per dose of Fentanyl to drug dealer prices!

A large quantity of PURE Fentanyl, 2.2 POUNDS (a good sized bag of flour!) Is a ENORMOUS quantity of that drug! Why, its



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$4,150.00. To buy Four thousand one hundred and fifty dollars of Fentanyl! For 2.2 pounds.

So how much did our retail drug dealer make selling that 2.2 pounds of pure Fentanyl? 1.6 MILLION DOLLARS!

So how much did these collection of drug dealers make in this and all the other fears make on this haul? About 7 pounds!

People may notice their are no "big busts" with pictures of a room full of marijuana any more when they bust their 7 million dollars of Fentanyl! They would like silly!

 

I don't know anything about the illegal drug business and the economics of it.

What I know about is the havoc, harm, and death it wreaks, the destruction of lives and families, and the weakening of the USA it causes.

And so again I say: FU NY Judge

 

You are do right!

Spending billions on tax money.
Spending a hundred times that amount putting millions of people in jail.
All the losses of people ability to be ok after being raped, beaten, used.
Destroying all of those millions of people from having a decent lobs no matter how well they have reformed, so most end up on dead end jobs at close to minimum wage.

Indeed, the havoc, harm, and death it wreaks, the destruction of lives and families, and the weakening of the USA it causes is a nation tragedy, and 100% antithetical to the idea of Americans having a the right to their lives!

 

any update on this case? I thought at the end of Feb there was a court date.

Googled it and found nothing besides the original articles that indicated They’re all due back in court Feb. 27.

 

To be fair she's from an authoritarian hellhole. When her government tells people to give up their guns they meekly comply because they have no rights. Can't expect foreign interlopers to understand the notion of sovereign states and whatnot...

 

That comes from the poster that thought if a state was known as Conservative ( in this case Texas) it couldnt have large cities dominated by Liberals in it like Austin.

Same poster will do nothing but insult your intelligence....

 

Kinda like being from a country where everyone bends over if told to bend over. Yeah, got it.You're right.