Smugglers Cut Doors Into Trump's Wall

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  1. Robert

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    Abortion in Israel is permitted when determined by a termination committee under limited circumstances such as rape, concerns about the age of the woman, or birth defects, with the vast majority of cases being approved as of 2019.[1][2][3] The rate of abortion in Israel has steadily declined since 1988.[1] Compared to the world, abortion rates in Israel are moderate. According to government data, in Israel, abortion rates in 2016 have dropped steadily to 9 per 1,000 women of childbearing age, lower than England (16.2) and the United States (13.2). 99% of abortions are carried out in the first trimester [4]

    Abortion in Israel had been illegal prior to 1977. It became legal subject to termination committee approval under the penal code of 1978.[5] Despite raging controversy in the United States, no American aid money is used for abortions in Israel [6]

    Prior to 2014 approval for an abortion in Israel by a termination committee was given under limited circumstances, such as if the woman was unmarried, because of age (if the woman was under the age of 18 - the legal marriage age in Israel - or over the age of 40), the pregnancy was conceived under illegal circumstances (rape, statutory rape, etc.) or an incestuous relationship, birth defects, or risk to the health or life of the mother. Subsequent to 2014, abortion up to the age of 33 can be provided for under the nationally funded health basket.[7]

    According to the Israel Central Bureau of Statistics report from 2004, in 2003, most abortion requests were granted, with 19,500 legal abortions performed and 200 requests for abortion denied. Reasons for termination went as follows: The woman was unmarried (42%), because of illegal circumstances (11%), health risks to the woman (about 20%), age of the woman (11%), and fetal birth defects (about 17%).[8] Women who would not qualify for an abortion under the statutory scheme may seek an abortion at a private clinic. Abortion in a private clinic is illegal.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abortion_in_Israel
     
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    Democrats and specifically the Anti Trump crowd hate the wall to the point they will even make up stories. Stories they never told about the Obama walls at all.
     
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    When you rip out and replace an old wall, you replace it with a NEW WALL. WaPo has repeatedly claimed that the new wall doesn't exist. And of course you cannot cut a hole in something that does not exist.

    Also, the bollards in that pic are prototypes that went through destructive testing with industrial tools. None of those designs are being used in the new wall.

    Oh. And.... A $100 battery powered common household reciprocating saw does not create slag, a torch does.

    Congratulations! You have been fooled by WaPo's "Jimmy's Wall" fake news series. How does it feel to be so naive?
     
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    Who told you that and why did you believe them?

    The new barrier is being equipped with sensors and cameras, including infrared cameras. And even drones. Also, Trump has coerced Mexico into using it's armed forces to stop illegals on their side by threatening to hit them with a 5% tariff that would increase by 1% for every 100 illegals that get through. And on our side we have the border patrol.

    There has already been a precipitous drop in the number of illegal border crossers.
     
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    None of this whining we read by Democrats happened to the Obama wall. Why is that?
     
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    Although sections of concrete wall are most often pictured in the media, these account for only 3 percent of the barrier, primarily in residential areas and along highways where Palestinian snipers had targeted Israeli citizens.

    https://www.azcentral.com/story/opi...ump-border-wall-learn-israel-first/678600001/

    There is another one from the Israel government somewhere. This is just the first I saw.

    I haven't seen the sensors on Trumps new wall. Got a link?
     
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    NBC
    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/im...-border-wall-showed-it-could-be-sawed-n956856
     
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    I would suggest that you read the entire article before embarrassing yourself. What does it say about the Israeli southern border ???
     
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    Where? All I saw was an excerpt from a book, not hard data.

    Provide links to prove your claim, not one writer's opinion.
     
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    Around the world. And yes, the jewish religion believes life starts at birth.

    And their opinion is just as valid as yours. So drop the sharia law attempts. Maybe mind your own business?
     
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    Because again it's unnecessary. It would be waste of time and idiotic.

    But I'll bite, tell me why you think they havent done something most Americans support?
     
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    Of course I'm not embarrassed. Why would I be?

    As to #3, you'd have to tell me what country you're in.

    As to #2, which was quite rude btw, that's pure horse pucky. You don't know me. I'm one of the "I'll be glad when it just doesn't matter" contingent. I've always taken people for what they claim to be, and I don't judge them at all, not by skin color or hair color or the size of their bank account. I wasn't brought up that way. I'm happy to leave the judging to you. People of other cultures don't scare me like they scare many conservatives.

    Also, how the heck would you know what my purpose is? Arrogant much?
     
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    With data in that excerpt. Here is the link to the actual report with data and references:

    https://www.fairus.org/issue/public...n-illegal-immigration-united-states-taxpayers
     
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    Where are the billions that you claimed ??

    Human life begins at conception. Prove that wrong.

    The willful termination of human life is everyone's business.
     
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    Yes. From the Executive Summary:

    Who was President during those years ?? Why weren't the Progressives going ballistic of these deaths ??
     
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    The leaders and their MSM are good at deception but their followers are just darned fools.
     
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    You mean this one?

    Or the little 40 mile one around Gaza at $5000 a mile.
    [​IMG]

    Seems they learned a lot faster than Trump.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egypt–Israel_barrier
     
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    Seems they built that fence on the honor system, like putting up a No Trespassing sign.
     
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    No just contrarian view points
     
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    You continue to embarrass yourself by not reading the links you post and carefully looking at the pictures.

    BTW how effective (before and after) was this southern border barrier ???
     
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    It's never been about controlling the border, it's been about the best way to do it.
     
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