So after 100 thousand Americans have died, we know whose fault all of this is.

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  1. kriman

    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    How many times must it be explained to you that no one expects anyone else to do Trumps job. Biden, whether he has had any actual knowledge of the situation or not has made outrageous statements, even after it was apparent to everyone else that this was serious
    That was ancient history. Trump has accused the Chinese of hiding everything. At the same time, some democrats were believing the statistics the Chinese were putting out on number of Chinese cases and deaths.

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    Thedimon Well-Known Member

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    WuFlu wasn’t some classified information.
    Democratic governors knew about it in February and local restrictions started to kick in in late February or early March. Governors could declare emergencies because the POTUS made resources available to them in early February.
    But somehow, Biden needed a special intelligence briefing to agree to the restrictions? Why did he ignore the governors from his own party for so long?
    Your excuses are laughable!
    Keep believing what you want, but to outsiders you look hilarious. Just being honest here.
     
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    Well, same old same old responses from the President Trump haters and trolls. CHINA is the villain here not the President. But keep blaming PRESIDENT Trump if it makes you sleep better.

    BTW, how many nursing home residents did Cuomo murder?
     
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  4. After-Hour Prowler

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    Isn’t China the source of the Virus?

    Didn’t Trump put in Travel restrictions on January 31st while the WHO was saying it was not necessary and Biden was calling Trump xenophobic?

    Didn’t Cuomo ignore the CDC warning on their lack of ventilators & DeBlasio auction off his excess ventilators?

    Trump got them all the ventilators they needed and more. He created hospitals in Central Park & had the Hospital ship comfort go to New York ?

    In all seriousness, can you imagine what a complete disaster we would have had if Hiden Biden was running the Show?
     
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    logical1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The truthful exact answer is China.
     
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    ButterBalls Well-Known Member

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    Yup!
     
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  7. Golem

    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    Bingo! There is still hope for you. You're leaning

    Now lesson two: how many people get sick if nobody spreads the infection?

    Whomp whomp whoooomp! (Sad Trumpet)

    If one person doesn't wear it, EVERYBODY can get infected. And if that person is the President of the United State, probably thousands will get infected as his cult followers imitate "the idol".

    Your post had an auspicious start. But then it went down hill.

    Never heard of him.... O'Bama. Sounds Irish... Anyway... this discussion is about Trump. I can understand why you would want to change the subject, though. Not easy to defend an idiot like that.
     
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  8. Professor Peabody

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    "a source familiar with the memo confirmed to CNN."
    "The sources confirmed the authenticity of both memos"


    :roflol: Fake News!
     
  9. Golem

    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    Quote a Democrat "blaming Trump for the virus rather than China"

    Careful. If you're going to quote a Democrat criticizing Trump for the handling of the virus (not "blaming Trump for the virus", like you said) you again open yourself to more embarrassment of the type you brought upon yourself by bringing up that link. You have been warned!
     
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    Yes he was. That’s his job.

    The Trump administration decided to end a $200m early warning program designed to alert it to potential pandemics just three months before it is believed Covid-19 began infecting people in China.


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    The project, called Predict, had been run by the US Agency for International Development since 2009. It had identified more than 160 different coronaviruses that had the potential to develop into pandemics, including a virus that is considered the closest known relative to Covid-19.

    A decision to wind down the program was made, however, in September, just three months before the first reports of people becoming infected with Covid-19 in Wuhan, China. The end of the program saw the departure of dozens of scientists and analysts working to identify potential pandemics in countries around the world, including China.”
     
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  11. Maccabee

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    It's a virus that killed more people in 5 months than the flu did last year. It's also a virus with no current cure or vaccine. So yeah, it is a big deal.
     
  12. Golem

    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    Absolutely useless, because our strain of Covid-19 came from Europe. Not from China. And it was already here when Trump announced his supposed "travel ban". Sorry to burst your bubble....
     
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  13. david gullikson

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    The crazy thing is, although he has no responsibility for anything, we have to see his orange mug all hours of every day. He insists we look at him full time. Like Kim Yung Un, or Putin. We are commanded to admire him.
     
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    Is it that hard to switch the channel or turn off the TV?
     
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    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You can take your warnings and stick them. I was not embarrassed by that link at all. That was an old link showing congress had been briefed by intelligence early on in the virus. A fact that you had been denying. You are talking like Trump is praising China now, not three months ago early on in this crisis as in that link.

    You claim Biden has not been briefed by intelligence or the CDC. That make it even worse. He is criticizing publicly about a subject which has no knowledge.
     
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    Which one doesnt have him? In North Korea, you cannot turn off the tv.
     
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    So it isn't the Center for Disease Control's job to control disease? It is in their frickin' name!

    TDS strikes again!
     
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    Modern TVs have apps for YouTube, Netflix, HBO, etc. Thats what I use. I rarely hear Trumps voice or see him in any videos.
    You see Trump a lot because you want to see and hear him.
     
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    Genius. You gave me a million dollar idea. An APP, that warns of Trump being televised.
     
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  21. Golem

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    It has nothing to do with being classified or not. It has to do with you having a CDC and a Secretary of Health that tell you what we should be preparing for, and intelligence agencies telling him that the Chinese are lying. Which they did!

    And what do they do with that information if the President is saying that HE has it under control and there is nothing to worry about!!!!!


    I don't know what country you're talking about. Restrictions in our country started in mid March. If they had started one week early 36 thousand lives would have been saved. If they had started two weeks earlier, 54 thousand lives would have been saved. And that's even without Trump having prepared.

    But Trump was showing that his only concern was... not the lives of Americans... but how his stocks were doing.

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    No!!!!

    The source of the virus is likely a mutation that occurred in a wet market in China, probably in a bat or armadillo or... something. We don't know for sure yet.

    I don't know if the WHO said it wasn't necessary. But, if they did, they were right. Not only because Airlines had already cancelled flights to China, but because the virus was already here... And it didn't come from China anyway.

    Absolutely not! New York had to purchase their own ventilators at many times the price.

    Too many "nos" on this post. Where do you get your (quote-unquote) "news"? Sean Hanniti's ass?
     
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    Fauci and the WHO said it was not a problem. WHO said it could not be spread from human to human.

    In my experience, when there is a problem, someone somewhere predicted that problem would take place. Also, in my experience, you get a lot of predictions of problems that never take place. When you are listening to a number of "experts" who are giving out differing opinion, you have to pick one or ignore all of them. Unless you get nearly universal advice from the experts, that advice is nearly worthless because you don't know who to believe. Early, there was confusion everywhere about how it transmitted and how quickly it could be transmitted.
     
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    What are you talking about? It didn't come from China? Just up above, you said it came from a wet market in China. Also, there is a lot of belief that a virus in their laboratory might have gotten over to the wet market. Anyway you look at it, that is China.
     
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    I gotta say one thing. Not providing a link to support your idiotic claim that "Democrats were blaming Trump for the virus" was a much better call then trying to twist some criticism of Trump because of how lousy he has been in handling the virus. Doing that would have left you wide open to my next move.
     

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