so........how do you like your new POTUS?.....Inflation?....Supply and Deman?...General state of the

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  1. pwillie

    pwillie Active Member Past Donor

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    Inflation anyone?....you happy with the current status?....
     
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    Democrats have tried to put this kind of dolt into office for decades. To allow the country to devolve into a third world shytehole before their very eyes. Why? To demonstrate how glorious they are in their own eyes. To be able to never have to compete with the unwashed masses they so revile. This is what democrats have become.
     
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    When trump was in office I often said I'd vote for Howdy Doody before voting for trump. Howdy didn't run for the Presidency but I elected the dolt that did and am much happier thank you. It's going to take longer than I hoped to clean up the mess that trump left but things are heading in the right direction. :)
     
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    Why are people so gullible as to believe it is the POTUS that controls inflation. All that does is show lack of education. And, it is as if, In the course of one year another Democrats destroyed the Country. It never ends from really dumb white guys or paid shills at the RNC
     
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    There is no CLEANING UP, not from the Left, nor from the right. It is the FED, it is the policy going back to Nixon, but mostly since Reagan. They have intentionally destroyed the dollar each 4 years for Immediate prosperity... Make economy better NOW. Never thinking down the road. The Fed is now trapped, if they raise rates to where we always have (around 5 or 6%) they will collapse the market and destroy the debt at 28 creating a 1.4T yearly interest payment. If they leave it alone at 0% and continue printing money they will grow inflation in 2022 by 15%... Damned, either way... So, they will lie, pretend they are going to taper, yet stop it in the spring, say they will raise rates, but wont, because they cant.
    By June they will find a way to reverse the tapering and start pumping money back into the economy because the market will fall. If they (the FED, the globalists, the crooked banksters) want Trump or a republican back in, or a congress full of republicans, they will let the stock market crash while inflation continues up. If they want Biden, and more dems. they will print and keep the market going up. Both are a dissaster !
     
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    Sadly, I agree with this. The stock market casino and big finance is literally too big to fail now.
     
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    Well, I suppose that is one tangent one could trod down. But, it also wasn't the point of the comment. I expect that when you really consider it, the printing endless supplies of money, and other "emergency" efforts aren't entirely Xoe's fault. But we can say, to a degree of confidence that it is his other, endless meddling in the economy that is actually detrimentally effecting the economy. From shortening supply for energy, to applying gross labor mandates, etc. Xoe does control those aspects, and they are plainly designed to attack the working folks, to disenfranchise them from the economy, and participation in it. His taxation policy takes more away from successful earners and keeps them from improving, and the inflation he's allowing to fun unchecked is making folks who were successfully watch their earning devalue before their very eyes. As more and more labor runs from the bench, then what? As Xiden allows more and more pandemic oppression, we'll see more pressure on both business and labor. It's a spiral to destruction.

    That wasn't anything that a republican implemented. Just sayin.
     
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    The economy is a joke. Inflation is going to kill those who are not getting raises.
     
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    Unemployment 3.9%
    GDP 5.5%
    The best economy since Reagan
     
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    You people like to repeat these GDP numbers and say the economy is going great.....

    But here is something you forgot to consider.... There's a little thing called reality that gets in the way of that ....

    The reality is gas is still ridiculous.

    The reality is I went in Walmart the other day and looked at several items I bought not one year ago.

    A small cooler I bought that was $20 is now $24.
    A pocket knife I bought it was $20 is now $28
    A kayak paddle I bought that was $30 is now $38.

    That's the actual reality.

    Another actual reality is that the availability of groceries keeps going down while the cost of them keep going up.

    Now if you want to sit here and tell me that the economy is doing great and that what I just said is also true as that's not arguable ( we all see the same things)....

    You're going to have a hard time reconciling those two things in reality as they tend to cancel each other out.
     
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    If Trumpo was still President, inflation would be twice as bad, Covid deaths would be double or triple. Putin would be allowed to invade Ukraine, the trade war with China would be roaring.
     
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    Did you read this in the tea leaves or do you just have such blind Faith in Biden that you believe such a thing without question ❓


    Tell us what you think he did that changed all of this?
     
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    The same way that you seem to think Trump would have made things better? Be real. The Presidents have far less power in these matters
    than you think. Inflation has been on the edge of this over-stimulated economy for a decade - it's only been a matter of time.
     
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    My how different than you sound than about 2 years ago....
     
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    You were blaming the bad economy on Covid while Trump was in office - said the economy was the result of things "out of a President's control" ... we
    still have rampant Covid around the world impacting supply lines and economies, but you suddenly think it's all about the President?
     
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    And you people sat right here and said the entire covid response was his fault.

    Your president said he put a stop to it he hasn't done any damn such thing but yet you want to sit here and make excuses for him.
     
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    No excuses. I think Biden is a mediocre President. But I don't kiss his ass the way the Trump crowd kissed Trump's ass ... still kisses his ass.
     
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    :roflol: LOL!!!! So you disagree that shortages cause prices to rise, eh? Isn't that the opposite of the standard RW logic?
     
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    Beat that strawman as you tilt at windmills....

    Does it get tiresome making excuses for this clown?
     
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    That's a pretty good way of dodging an issue that exposes your conflicts. Congrats!
     
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    Gooblygunk founded on a strawman.
     
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    I dislike Biden as much as any Conservative but its always been pretty disingenuous to give credit or blame on a president for the economy. Its entirely too large for just one man to manipulate. The success or failures of the market are usually INSPITE of whomever is president not because of them. 2020-21 was the perfect storm of cultural instability, pandemic, Supply shortages, and long overdue inflation due to over spending and borrowing against debt. I no more blame Trump than I do Biden. But be warned Its not going to get any better.

    The most important thing any of us can do is try to snap up as much good real estate as we can to whether the storm that is assuredly coming. The only question you need to ask yourself is am I, and my family, ready for extremely hard times? If that answer is no to that, Than you better get to work and quickly. 3 keys. Own your own property, make sure you are debt free, make sure your family has life skills to survive each day in hard conditions.
     
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    I bet the President can at least spell "demand".
     
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    What "mess" did Trump leave? Please describe it IN DETAIL for the rest of us.

    I'll just say that my gasoline, energy, groceries, and other supplies were all much cheaper and readily available under Trump than they are now under Biden.

    My healthcare premium and home heating rates both increased 24% over the prior year. Home heating "spot price" is now 21% above what I contracted it for in the Summer. Thankfully I offset that cost with wood burning. Groceries are much more expensive now, gas has gone up roughly 50% from Trump's pre-COVID era prices (and have now gone up 12% in the matter of a week).

    FJB.
    Let's Go Brandon.
    **** Democrat tyranny.
     
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    Racism.

    The policies of POTUS have an effect on inflation. You can see how low it was all during Trump's tenure and how it instantly spiked astronomically the moment that Biden was installed via election fraud.
     

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