So its 3 years in the trumps presidency but no state visit to Germany yet

You hate the french and british that much? Their arrogance and hate against Germany brought Hitler in power.

 

Versailles was critical, but NSDAP success didn't come until the elections of 1930. Of course the treaty 1919, hyperinflation 1923, and the depression 1929 were all part of the party's platform. Weimar Germany would have survived had it not been for the depression.

 

People dont endure evrything for eternal

 

Not really. From the standpoint of synergy, the UK is most important. We share a lot in common. If Germany was an important ally, Merkel screwed it up by cutting a side deal with Putin on a gas pipeline at the same time the US was funding lion's share of NATO against the threat presented by Putin.

Economically, I'm thinking that the Saudi's are as important as anyone. The petrodollar system which render's the dollar the world's reserve currency adds stability to our economy. If that stature is yanked, there will likely be some dramatic changes.

 

1. Merkel made no deal, german energy companies do. We are not a communist dictatorship like USA where the president says he makes state deals.

2. Russian gas is 30% cheaper, you are free to sell your gas at a lower price. Should i explain capitalism and freedom of trade for you? When you offer your gas cheaper, customers will prefer it over russian gas. Its called "capitalism". Do you know that concept?

 

First sign of losing for those who think every debate is win-lose is hurling of insults. How's Merkel's coalition doing these days?

 

Good enough to punch Nordstream II through.

I ask again, whats your problem with capitalism? What hinders you to sell your gas cheaper than the russians and why you think you can demand from german workers to pay 30% more for heating their families homes?

Are german energy politics now decided in Washington? tell, me why do we vote again? We could all save the money by simply become a US colony, right? Just let you decide for us. Is that what you think about freedom and democracy? We are a souvereign nation. We decide our own fate.

We build a 2nd pipeline to russia right now. We also build an LNG terminal in Wilhelmshaven. You are free to sell your gas a reasonable price so i´m sure it will find customers.

 

And that is exactly Trump's point. The US shouldn't spend a dime more than the value it gains to defend Western Europe. The arrangement has been stupid. Every country should do whatever is in their best interests. There is no reason for the US to contribute any more to the UN than any other country, if we need an enemy on our soil at all. We should restrict imports from each country in the same manner that they restrict our exports. No more, no less. These are pretty good principles to live by. They are principles that fly in the face of globalists whose World Order Trump is upsetting. We probably agree on a lot more than it appears.

 

The US does not defend western Europe. It endangers it. Its countless wars in the middle east created refugee waves, we have to deflect. It creastes terrorists like ISIS. The dead in Nice and Paris are direct victims of USA policies.

Germany is the 2nd biggest sponsor of UN. What does the UN do for us? Nothing.

We dont restrict imports from USA. We have free markets. You simply dont offer what people want here. WalMart went bancrupt in Germany for example for that reason.

Your Trump is in a trap with Germany regarding that. He says we tariff cars, we say ok make tariffs zero. He dont want to. He knows americans buy german cars. Germans dont buy american cars.

So how solve that? Surely not by insults. You cant force Germans to buy something they dont like.

So what does trump want? We offer to sink tariffs on zero. You surely agree there is nothing else we can do, since the rest must be done from the market.

 

Your regulations are demanding the switch to 100% renewable energy sources. Is NG only for heating?

 

Your waves of refugees are refugees of your own making. Assad has tried to starve his people by shutting down the ability to irrigate. Your pal Putin has backed Assad because Assad has been blocking Saudi Arabia from building an oil & gas pipeline to Europe. He has his monopoly because of Assad and because you can't figure out how to supply your own power. If you want to understand why you have a refugee crisis, you merely have to look in the mirror, look at your leaders, and look to Brussels.

 

To increase hydro-electric production and improve irrigation in arid parts of Anatolia, Turkey began building a series of 23 dams starting in the 1980s, reducing the amount of water that could be used for agriculture downstream in Syria and Iraq.

Turkish leaders unilaterally annulled a water-sharing agreement with both Syria and Iraq in 2014.

"They were supposed to allow 500 cubic meters per second of water through to the Euphrates and they reduced that down to 200 meters," Marcus King, a specialist on environmental security at George Washington University in Washington, told VOA.

Decreased flow from Turkey, seven years of fighting, and mismanagement of water resources in many parts of the country, have hit farming hard in Syria. A severe drought from 2006 to 2010 also caused tens of thousands of Syrians to give up agriculture, creating an army of idle young men that may have helped ignite the conflict that began in 2011.

https://www.voanews.com/middle-east/water-crisis-looms-syria-military-conflict-winds-down

Six years into a conflict that has killed at least 400,000 people, there is a widely held belief that the bloodshed in Syria is simply another war over Middle Eastern energy resources.

The bloodshed, so the theory goes, is a proxy battle about two proposed pipelines which would run across the country and on to Turkey and Europe.

While neither pipeline has left the drawing board, or indeed was ever realistic, this has not dampened the theory's popularity as a core reason for the Syria conflict.
The first pipeline is allegedly backed by the US and runs from Qatar through Saudi Arabia and Jordan to Syria. The second is a supposedly Russia-backed pipeline that goes from Iran, via Iraq, to Syria.

Syrian President Bashar al-Assad, it is claimed, rejected the Qatari pipeline in 2009, at the request of Moscow, to ensure that European reliance on Russian gas would not be undermined.

As a result, some commentators claim, the US and its European and Gulf allies, including Qatar, decided to orchestrate a rebellion against Assad to ensure that their pipe dreams became a reality rather than the Iranian option. Russia, in turn, backed Syria to ensure its own energy interests prevailed. Iran is also an ally of the current regime in Damascus.

These claims have been promoted in several quarters: the Qatari-based Al Jazeera first floated the concept of a "Pipelineistan war" in 2012.

Even US establishment journal Foreign Affairsand the Guardian newspaper picked up on the theory, which gained further traction in 2016 in an article by Robert Kennedy Jr, and was flagged by, among others, Jill Stein of the Green Party, a former US presidential candidate.


The idea was floated again after the US bombing of Syria in April. This, it was claimed, was further "proof" of Washington's desire to oust Assad and enable Europe to diversify its gas dependency away from Russia.

While the US has been covertly working with Gulf allies against the Assad regime, controlling Syria's energy resources and pipeline networks was not a primary concern. If so, it would be a very low priority for regime change.

Why? Firstly, the timeline is wrong. Covert action against Syria started under the George W Bush administration, in 2005, well before the alleged Qatari offer to Damascus in 2009.

https://www.middleeasteye.net/big-story/pipelineistan-conspiracy-war-syria-has-never-been-about-gas

 

The tables below give a detailed country-by-country count of human losses. World War II fatality statistics vary, with estimates of total deaths ranging from 70 million to 85 million.[2] Deaths directly caused by the war (including military and civilians killed) are estimated at 50–56 million people, while there were an additional estimated 19 to 28 million deaths from war-related disease and famine.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II_casualties

 

I guess Germans don't like going to restaurants, or do they just bring their own food and cook it and serve it to themselves? I haven't been back to Germany since the wall came down but before then Germans were very friendly. Seems since the fall of the wall East Germans brought their paranoid behavior to Germany. Didn't want to attract attention for fear the KGB's East German lap dogs came knocking at their door.

 

If anything, I'd want the US to disengage from Europe. Between feminism, failure to even replace themselves demographically, socialism, mass immigration and a failure to support their own defense, they are in something of a death spiral. Not a relationship I would maintain. We need to bug out.

 

We blocked migration, it is halted so much, africans now fly mexico to get into USA.

We dont have that mad feminists like you do.

Your numbers dwindle and get replaced by blacks and mexicans. Thats what i call a death spiral. We were able to halt that in Europe. you still run hot with leftist liberalism, 3rd world immigration and getting replaced from even sudanese.

 

Heating and gas power plants

 

Touche. I hope we can turn things around.

 

Not what I saw when I was in EU last time.

 

You might be too optimistic Sobo.
Have the migrants left? Are there forced deportations? When i visited Dresden, Munich, and Berlin I hardly saw a German. It was all Turks, Africans, hijab women and some tourists. I will never forget the two dozen young African and Arab men loitering and harassing people in front of the train station in Munich. Also the "Refugee Center" a couple blocks away. Very sad. Where have they gone?

We are all, Europe and North America, frogs in a pot. The temperature rises, we don't seem to feel it.

 

Oh you visited tue migrant expulsion camps in moria and idomeni and also the concentration camps in libya? How was it?

 

We have 60.000 forced deportations in germany alone per year. 250.000 left on their own. New entry is basicly blocked.

You hardly saw a german in dresden? Thats rich, dresden is in saxony and has a non german population of 1.2%.

 

Go in front of the Ibis close to the main train station in Dresden and tell me what you see. I saw hijab women pushing strollers everywhere. I was shocked because I knew Dresden was where pegida started. 1.2% is a faulty number.

 

It should also be roughly 6:45 am in Germany right now. If you are truly there and are not a troll, why are you on at thus time? Possible American troll.

 

Why should he go....did he leave something there?