It seems the election result has put shame on the haters of this section of the forum. Unable to equate the election results and the current imbalance in the ALP, they run and hide under their beds. But anyway, on we go. Hearing the excuses of why the ALP lost, Climate change alarmists, leader hatred, party factional infighting… https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-06-01/climate-groups-reflect-on-federal-election-results/11156126 Adani??? Well in Queensland there can be no doubt the two faced approach by the ALP lost them votes. But let us not just lay blame there as I think the Green groups have to accept the responsibility of the activist movement they supported such as the vegan groups who decided to protest in such formats of disruption to people and business to dictate their belief that the world should follow their demands. Seriously, activism in Australia is beyond a joke. People demanding that activism should be exempt from the law and not only that, but demand Australian government go to war (figuratively speaking) against anybody who expects activists to adhere to the law or answer to their infractions… Put simply, people don’t like being told by others they are terrible people because they don’t agree with minorities on how to live life. But then we have. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-05-30/bill-shorten-takes-aim-at-corporate-leviathans-federal-election/11164318 The Media did it, considering just how much was spent in opposition to the Coalition, it would seem to me that this is sour grapes. I love the “hindsight masquerading as insight”. Hindsight tells me he was going to dismantle Coalitions policies on DV, gambling and family neglect. Since he promised such, then announced greater funding for women refuge and inquiries into legislation and punishments, it isn’t a great leap to realise the this policy was insight into understanding that the ALP was about reactive policy rather than preventative policy. In other words, the hindsight was insight into ALP governance. Clearly, Shorten considered creating a policy that would perpetuate the issues rather than try preventing them. His continued refusal to condemn those in the union movement, convicted of violence against women, standover and domestic violence stood to demonstrate such… So stupid to say, “hindsight masquerading as insight” especially when they are trying to get people to vote on what you might do in the future. I could grab heaps but the most predominant thing is, IF you not going to listen to the people, then don’t expect to be elected. Pundits and media are still grasping at the straws of what happened, but still NOBODY is talking to the people. Everybody I spoke too, talked about a detrimental policy the ALP had in the past that they said would bring about again. I talked to people who were not going to vote ALP and I talk to a lot of people every day. I didn’t talk to anybody who agreed with ALP policy. Many wanted to know why if the economy is going great why the ALP wanted to increase the taxation income to pay for nothing. How the ALP was going to pay down debt or were they going to continue to spend the way they did last time as their rhetoric was about spending. Oh and the death duties thing, this epitomises the degradation in support for the ALP… Everybody knew it was not an ALP policy, but since the ALP clearly has agreement with the Greens party (both make their Coalition) and ALP refuse to directly oppose such policy. They simply deflected the questions by saying it was not ALP policy, clearly they would be open to such policy should they need to deal with the Greens or even if the run out of spending money (as they have done in the past.) Either way, the excuses still run heavy, if the people voted on policy… if the media didn’t lie… or is it if the ALP were honest. No matter how you dissect it, if you don’t talk to the people who vote then just as all those pundits before, you will be found lacking…
Good on ya, Garry, hater of the Greens and ALP. It might take another 15 years or so to realize the devastating course the Liberals have put us on. No to climate change, yes to coal, no to a greener future. Worst of all, no sustainable future for our kids. Every Lib/National voter should be ashamed, putting economy over the obvious. There is an alternative, other (especially Euro countries) are leading the way and we could learn something from them. I start hating the right wingers for ruining our country, it is almost like a betrayel. Garry, it might make you happy, but to me the election is a clear indication that people voted for the economy as most important, without thinking the consequences through.... Reg.
Yes, you are right there, the majority voted Libs/Nationals in because they were mislead. The majority also voted for Putin, Xi Ping, Trump, Erdogan and so on. Turn the clock bach almost 90 years, and you will find the even Hitler had his followeres. No reason for me to vote for this brownish smear of today. But as long as I breath, I will fight those Nationalists, because I don't want history to repeat itself. I am a dedicated Humanist !!!!! I do know however that some are really happy on the far right side of the fence, aren't you? Have a great Sunday....
Oh dear, YOUR the genius and the rest of the world are just duped, ignorant and gullible... I have to wonder, you claim to treat others the way you wish to be treated yourself. I would assume insulting the world because you don’t agree with them is demonstrative to the lack of respect for others you pretend you wish for yourself. AND you pretend to be a “humanist.” I do have to say, you lay claims of party and people in total ignorance of the belief that others are free to have an alternative opinion and belief. Thus clearly demonstrating the premise of the thread that people trying to assert their beliefs upon the nation above the democratic rights of the majority… You know the haters… You talk about democracy and freedom, yet when it doesn’t flow your way all we get is hate dissemination and denigration. Talk about humanist, isn’t that the belief that others are free to choose??? Oh wait, that is only if they choose YOUR way, isn’t it? But that is fine, as I said before, just sour grapes lashing out to insult others because you suddenly realise that YOUR belief of what the facts are do not agree with the majority… WAKE UP. People are free to believe what they want, but trying to force YOUR opinions down people’s throats pretending they are facts has been found lacking…
Not everyone on the right is against clean energy . I for instance hate the LNP policy and wish they'd pursue a nuclear grid with household solar. As far as nationalism goes, everyone always seems to forget the authoritarian ethno- part of the German's authoritarian ethno-nationalism.
