So When Do REPUBS IMPEACH BIDEN?

The title is one example, of all the presumptive promises, Republicans have been making, about what they would do, after the formality of the midterm election:

They were going to impeach the President.

They were going to investigate & probably vote to impeach AG Merrick Garland.

They were going to stop the government from raising our Debt Limit, without first exacting deep cuts in Social Security (as for cost of living increases, as well as towards creating a path to end it), and Medicare (and Medicaid)-- even if that meant defaulting on our payment obligations.

Speaking of Medicare, they were going to rescind its newly- granted ability, to act in a Capitalistic way (and not be exploited by our system), by negotiating lower drug prices.

There was even talk-- after voicing such resounding support of the SCOTUS rationale for ending Roe-- that this decision, belonged with the states, individually-- of passing some NATIONAL, more Restrictive, maximum standard, for Abortion.

And, of course, it wouldn't be a Republican plan, without big tax breaks for the rich, and for their corporate donors. At the minimum, the Trump cuts were going to be made permanent. Also, Biden's 15% minimum corporate tax-- which he'd managed to get all of our first world trading partners to agree to-- would certainly be toast.

But all that, was predicated upon the wave of public support-- really, assumed public disapproval of Biden & Democrats-- which never came. Republicans have not even, for certain, yet taken the House; though, with the success of the new districts, designed, after last census, specifically to ensure more safe Republican districts, it seems likely that McCarthy will get the Speaker's Gavel. The Senate, however (as I, and others, had predicted) appears more likely to stay under Democratic control.

So this thread is meant to open up the floor to opinions on, assuming a Republican House, but a Democratic Senate, how bold will the House Republicans be in doing the things, they've been talking about doing. Will McCarthy-- the most likely candidate for Speaker, but alternative possibilities, welcomed-- actually heed the writing on the wall, from this election, and so try to tone down the absolutist opposition to all Democratic proposals, in order to portray a Republican Party that can reasonably compromise with the other side?

 

Unlike the democrats, I don't think they ever had any intention of doing so.

Nice try Fidel.

 

The RP is The Stupid Party, but it is not stupid enough to impeach Biden.

 

I am not in the habit of assigning my made up fears, to other people. Republican members have spoken of all of these things. If you have never heard them, you have been living in a box, away from the current discourse, of Republican pols.

 

Had it been a "wave" of Republican victory, you can bet they would have. But seeing former British Prime Minister Liz Truss, merely presenting a "trickle down" economic plan in Parliament, leading to all its negative economic fallout, and currency chaos (& Truss's resignation), had been insufficient to change McCarthy's tune, about moving ahead, in the same inadvisable fashion, here. This is the question of my thread-- will the lukewarm response that Repubs got from voters, because of their recent rhetoric, be enough to get Republicans to change their game plan?

 

Personally, it will probably be at the end of 2023 or early 2024 and will use the impeachment as part of their effort to retake the WH in 2024. In the meantime, they will try to flood the "airwaves" as much as possible of all the "wrongdoings" that the Biden administration did, much like the Benghazi and other investigative committees the GOP did under Clinton and Obama.

The same old strategy is being used.

 

Interesting thought. If that were to be their strategy, though, it could potentially backfire on them, strengthening Biden support, as had happened with Clinton's impeachment. Also, if they were going to put this off for a year, what reason will they give those of their constituents, who have been clamoring for this, and to whom at least some Repub politicians, have been saying that this will come, from a Republican House majority?

 

I think Republicans are more worried about ISSUES. I would love to see them do some revenge witch hunts but it isn't very productive (I know I know, why do WE always have to be the good guys?). BECAUSE WE ARE

Have you noticed Democrats didn't actually run on an issue except "SAVE OUR DEMOCRACY"

 

Be that as it may, you would need a preponderance of members to actually go through with an impeachment, and approval from the leadership before an inquiry could even begin.

Just because a few members state their desire does not actually come even remotely close to making it so. Id venture a guess that most Presidents since Nixon have had at least one or two people from the opposition suggest impeaching them.





...I happened to look it up. It seems that Democrats have tried to impeach 5 of the last 6 Republican Presidents.

Have Democrats Tried to Impeach Every GOP President Since Ike? | Snopes.com


Is this REALLY as big of a deal as you seem to be implying?

 

Biden should be impeached for not enforcing the law on the border. Biden took an oath "to protect and defend the constitution." He is not doing it. His border czar and Kamala Harris both say, "The border is closed," but people who follow the news know that is a big lie. If opening the border completely is so attractive, Biden should rally the American people to support it, but he's not doing that. He is lying and implementing the policy.

 

they never 'locked up Hillary after 2016 either. She's still free.

 

No they also ran on the issue that you have the right to kill your baby whenever you feel like it. That resonates with voters, as we heard from the exit polls yesterday.

I support early term abortion, but I don't find the procedure attractive, and I certainly do support late term abortions and infanticide.

 

Hillary is a Democrat. She can do whatever she wants. The media will not report any wrong doing she does, and the Democrat controlled Congress will not investigate it.

 

Never, they should never stoop to the level of the DNC

 

They ran on reproductive rights, transitioning America to manufacturing our own microchips, energy policy that cannot be manipulated by SA and Russia, protections for LGBT youth, health care, taxing billionaires that have some of the lowest tax rates ever seen in the last several decades, reforming drug policy…

Republicans ran on everyone we don’t like is a groomer even though we support religious grooming and that women should have zero bodily autonomy if uncle Cletus or the priest (that Republicans fund) rape them.

 

Your post is an unwitting satire of reality-resistant, Republican "alternate facts," and fantasy worlds. The Repubs are always the "good guys," taking the high road, to work on important legislation, instead of just publicity seeking, propagandistic sensationalism?

Tell me, about all the Republican "plans," they were running on? The Dems had run almost entirely on issues, until Biden's speeches, to lead the late Democratic charge, in defense of Democracy. The Dems had actually passed legislation, without help of Republicans, who were more concerned about female impersonators in schools (or for a library's story time), trans athletes, "censorship" of Dr. Seuss books, people wanting to use non-conventional personal pronouns, and the supposed, institutional teaching of Critical Race Theory, in elementary schools.

Democrats are in favor of national, statutory Abortion protections. They passed a law to give Medicare the power to save our Treasury's funds, through negotiating lower drug prices, from manufacturers. They limited out of pocket costs for pharmaceuticals in general, and put a cap on the price of insulin, in particular. They passed a Biden bill, establishing a new, 15% minimum corporate income tax. Biden has granted student loan relief. This President is the first, to start the federal government's re-evaluating, the legal status of marijuana. The Democratic Party is more staunchly supportive of Ukraine, in opposing Russia and Putin's invasion. And Democrats are sincerely committed to changing our energy infrastructure, to address Climate Change, as opposed to just mouthing words, like Republicans, with no intention of backing them up, with action.


Your turn.

 

You are saying that not leading the country into a black hole, is to "stoop to the level of the DNC?"

 

you mean the kind of energy when we beg Saudi Arabia to increase their production?

We only care about the trans in sports because the left thought it was a good idea to have men beating the crap out of women

protection for LBGT youth? You mean chemical castration for little boys that played with a Barbie doll one day?

the grooming is real. I saw a video of a trans woman at a school making little kids sing “lol f you’re happy and you know it shake your bum”. At least let them hit double digits before teaching them to twerk

I don’t know anything about this microchip thing but I’ll take your word for it. I’m all for more manufacturing being done in the USA

I like what I’ve heard from Biden about prescription drugs. It looks like we at least agree on one thing

not bad!

 

Have you ever heard of "the Squad?"

IOW, your post is ludicrously comical, given how Republicans, on a regular basis, accuse the whole of the Democratic Party as Communists/Socialists, and being 100% behind whatever comes over the lips of AOC, or Bernie Sanders, or Elizabeth Warren.

I don't think I implied that this, in and of itself, was a "big deal." I thought I had included this, among other Republican priorities, as a waster of time & focus, which we are hardly in a position, at present, to afford to waste.

 

Yes, I am familiar with the squad.

What is "ludicrously comical"? What does my statement "Just because a few members state their desire does not actually come even remotely close to making it so."..... have to do with some people calling AOC, Bernie Sanders etc. Communists? Sincerely, what are you talking about here?

My point is that just because a few members said they want to impeach Biden ( I am taking your word for it) by no means is an indication that it will really happen. In order for that to really happen, you ultimately need the buy-in from a majority of the membership, and only a few making mention of this does not indicate that the majority will follow suit. Nothing even remotely indicates that as being the case. How you are rationalizing my stated position to be "ludicrously comical" defies logic. It TRULY is not reflective of anything I have said on the subject.

To whatever extent that you thought this was worthy of creating a thread as to when Republicans will impeach BIden, is the extent that I am characterizing your position as making it out to be a big deal. Is it REALLY worthy of a thread?

Personally, I think not. There has not been anywhere near a groundswell of support to impeach Biden amongst house Republicans, that would lead anyone to logically conclude that we are on the cusp of another pointless impeachment.

After hearing the title "waster of time" I do believe that is the perfect characterization of the Trump impeachments. It would also be the perfect characterization if Republicans went down that same silly path.

Nobody though is seriously implying we are on the cusp of such, except for you of course.

 

To the point of this thread, re the issue of impeachment:

I just heard recent Republican Representative from Florida, David Jolley, assert with absolute sureness, that his former colleagues would without a doubt impeach Biden, not cooperate with the Dems, and play hardball, with obstructionism (I'm not certain if he specified the Debt Limit; I think he may have, but I can't recall his specific characterization of what he expected).

His advice to Biden, was to not let up on the pressure, in a misguided belief that McCarthy & his caucus might be more amenable to compromise, after this electoral reproof.

 

You mean after we begged them to decrease production because they were destabilizing our “energy independent” nation?

No — I mean getting off foreign oil completely

Is that why y’all are banning pride flags and even LGBT representation in books?

That doesn’t happen — no I mean barring LGBT youth outreach groups, representation in school and outing them to their parents.

I don’t think dancing is sexualizing nor is it promoting anything besides having fun for children. There are a few items that do concern me but that are rare and localized.

CHIPS act. It will massively disrupt the hold China has on this market

Two things if you also like the CHIPS act!

That has to be a record

 

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Just to sharpen the accuracy, of my recounting of fmr. Rep. David Jolley's comments: while he said he understood Biden's inclination to "be kind," he should not be fooled into thinking that McCarthy will return the sentiment. Jolley "promises" that his former colleagues will, without a doubt, impeach Biden, not negotiate with the Dems, and "not be kind."

The reason that they will impeach Biden, according to Jolley, is that "they cannot compete with Biden on the issues." Yesterday's election proved that. So they will distract, with investigations.

Jolley assesses that Biden has the Repubs "on the ropes," and his advice to Biden, is that he can't let up, on the pressure. The way the Republicans will conduct the investigations will not be consistent with the way they treated investigations, as the minority. They will only be a witch hunt, and Biden should point out the double standard.

 

Unfortunately, I don't think Republicans are dumb enough to try to impeach Biden. It would remind the American people what impeaching a President for purely political reasons, instead of for actual High Crimes and Misdemeanors (like the ones Trump committed), really looks like. And it would look like Jim Jordan making a complete fool of himself. The reason this is so easy to imagine is that it has happened so many times before. They wouldn't want that on national TV again.

 

Former Republican U.S. Representative, David Jolley, strenuously disagrees with your sizing-up, of his recent colleagues' way of thinking. See my post #23, immediately ahead of your own post.