So WHY did God create Man and the Universe?

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  1. cupid dave

    cupid dave Well-Known Member

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    Jesus had just told Philip that, "I am the Truth,... the way and the life" when Philip said what you said, too.

    So Jesus explained it in more detail as follows:

    6 Jesus saith unto him, I am The Truth, and the way and the life:
    no man cometh unto the Father,
    (Reality), but by me.

    7 If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father, (Reality), also: and from henceforth ye know him, (Reality), and have seen him, (Reality).

    8 Philip saith unto him, Lord, show us the Father, and it sufficeth us.

    9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I, (Truth), been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip?
    He that hath seen me, (Truth), hath seen the Father, (Reality); and how sayest thou then, Show us the Father, (Reality),?

    10 Believest thou not that I, (Truth), am in the Father, (Reality), and the Father, (Reality), in me?
    The words that I speak unto you, I speak not of myself: but the Father,
    (Reality), that dwelleth in me,...

    11 Believe me that I, (The Truth), am in the Father, (Reality), and the Father, (Reality), in me:
     
  2. cupid dave

    cupid dave Well-Known Member

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    God did say he does "stuff"...

    Isa 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things.
     
  3. Giftedone

    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What fantasy ?
    I was just giving you what Jesus says. If you do not want to accept this or think it is from Satan then you are free to do so.
     
  4. cupid dave

    cupid dave Well-Known Member

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    huh...

    If one does NOT believe in Truth he can not know Reality.

    Then he will not live in Reality.
    He will live in some "Fantasy World" built upon lies.
     
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    Prunepicker Well-Known Member

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    In the context of the discussion it's when people do good deeds with the idea
    that they'll earn salvation. Some people believe if their good out weights the
    bad then they get to go to Heaven.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Stop uttering unintelligible platitudes yourself and try and make some sense.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Good deeds and following the commands is what "works" is. It does not have to be with the intent of salvation. In general, living a good life. Works can also be expressed as a lack of doing bad things. "Judge not lest ye be Judged"

    Do unto others as you would have them do to you is another example. If you don't want others to kill you then do not kill others aka "the golden rule"
     
  8. Incorporeal

    Incorporeal Well-Known Member

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    "Eph 2:8 For [SUP]G1063[/SUP] by grace [SUP]G5485[/SUP] are ye [SUP]G2075[/SUP] saved [SUP]G4982[/SUP] through [SUP]G1223[/SUP] faith; [SUP]G4102[/SUP] and [SUP]G2532[/SUP] that [SUP]G5124[/SUP] not [SUP]G3756[/SUP] of [SUP]G1537[/SUP] yourselves: [SUP]G5216[/SUP] it is the gift [SUP]G1435[/SUP] of God: [SUP]G2316 "

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    "Eph 2:9 Not [SUP]G3756[/SUP] of [SUP]G1537[/SUP] works, [SUP]G2041[/SUP] lest [SUP]G3363[/SUP] any man [SUP]G5100[/SUP] should boast. [SUP]G2744 "

    That pretty much sums it up.
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  9. jpaluska

    jpaluska New Member

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    I know this because Jesus stated ""O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, the city that kills the prophets and stones those sent to her! How often I wanted to gather your children together, just as a hen gathers her brood under her wings, and you would not have it! - Luke 13:34.
    Now, I know that I have opened a can of worms with this post lol, but there are different answers to why Jesus didn't just do it :)
     
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    All you know is a line in an old book. I have a book here which claims the earth is carried on the back of a giant turtle.
     
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    GOD is an above all perfectionist,
    and there is no perfection in a a void time and space.
     
  12. jpaluska

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    no, you are grossly mistaken about the accuracy and reliability of the gospels, my friend.
    These four sources' authors were willing to die over their testimonies. I'm sure that the author of your book doesn't want to die for his inaccuracy.
    Further, historians have analyzed these books extensively and conclude that they are not fairy tales.
    http://www.npr.org/2012/04/01/149462376/did-jesus-exist-a-historian-makes-his-case
     

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