So WHY did God create Man and the Universe?

Used to promote sexual promiscuity they are immoral.

 

That is fine with me... just don't use it as a part of your signature line, as you do not have my consent for that activity.

Likewise, I will be constantly reminding you that you are following the footsteps of a Christian.

 

So is there some way I could use the "Venus De Milo" to promote sexual promiscuity?



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A "Christian" who contradicts himself...and his faith. Titus 3:2

 

Obviously one you have chosen to use as a Role Model. You have stated repeatedly that you do like my way of debating and have even stated how much fun it is. Point being, regardless of what innuendos you want to throw out there now, I have the record of this forum to support my claim that you are following in the footsteps of a Christian.

 

No, because I won't. I used it to smack you with your own dishonest way of "debating", Incorp.

But I won't follow in your footsteps....because I don't follow disengenuousness or even dishonesty.

You DEMAND from others, that which you yourself won't abide by. The basic term is...

"hypocrite"

 

And here in lies our diametrically opposed views of existence.

Genesis does not describe the big bang in any meaningful way and most definitely not from a scientific perspective.


Like many vague metaphor and superstition laden, obsolete cultural reference packed writings from profoundly ignorant humans, one can interpret whatever one wishes too. History has clearly shown that to all be too true.

I simply reject the bible and indeed all foundational religious scriptures as THE source of this odd notion of religious TRUTH that is predicated on an expression of superstitious belief in supernatural beings and events.

 

Your closing word makes a mockery of what you have already done. Your current rationalization means nothing as it cannot erase what you have already published. So quit your belly aching and just live up to the fact that you did follow in the footsteps of a Christian. Therefore, you are equally quilty of that which you accuse me

 

I don't know, and it's not important.

 

Just for Entertainment.

 

The force behind Reality which appeared at the moment of the Big Bang also created Truth in its wake.

Funny as that may be, the reason for the creation was to give birth to the concept of Truth.

 

During the 1000 years of Jesus in the Universal Church these naked statues did not appear, nor nudes in oil paints, nor unseemly attire worn by women.
With the Renaissance that returned at the end of those 1000 years, the great beast of Greek and Roman culture re-appeared again.

We suddenly saw nakedness again, and the Gays and Harlots began reappearing in one doomed political system after the next.

 

The problem is that Religeon has been preaching the same things for a long time and it doesn't appear to have had much effect on the trends in society. The definition of insanity is " repeating the same mistakes over and over and expecting a different result "

 

No, Incorp....I MOCKED a phony.

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So, when was this "1000 years of no nudes in art"...give me the years....

so I can start my research.

 

...not "religious" truth,..

Truth as an ideal.
Truth men need to become religiously interested in.
Truth discovered and lived in accord with.

Truth defines Reality.

Man can only discover Truth and assume it defines the real world he is trapped within.
This knowledge allows man to save himself from living in Fantasy World of insanity.

 

dave? When EXACTLY were these "1000 years of no nude art"? Give me the years please?

 

I fail to grasp this "Truth as an ideal" you are attempting to describe. Truth is concrete, it is binary, it is testable.

I also totally reject the notion that man is trapped within reality.
Life is merely an animated expression of energy/matter/space/time that is reality of the universe we live in.


If insanity is a fantasy world, then it is only one of many many we can choose to visit or inhabit within the universe that exists between our own ears.

 

Look for aesthetic works before 313AD and the beginning of the Renaissance 1300AD, when Roman and Greek Culture returned again, especially in the discipline of Art, and nudes and real life was represented once more.

"The most salient feature of this new aesthetic was its “abstract,” or anti-naturalistic character.
If classical art was marked by the attempt to create representations that mimicked reality as closely as possible, Byzantine art seems to have abandoned this, (reality), attempt in favor of a more symbolic approach."

 

But you do not deny that all life, including man, must adapt to the ever changing Reality or become extinct,... right?

There is something which is the same for us all, and we call it Reality.
We document it as History, and try to imagine that History is true.
We know Facts have unfolded with each frame of Reality that has appeared, and we can measure and find many of them for use in developing more Truth.

 

Right.
There are "many we can choose to visit or inhabit."

And everyone of them endangers our lives or our species.
They are all insane places to inhabit.
They are built upon Lies, not Truth.

Unless we have found the singular, single, one and only Reality where we really live, we tempt Extinction.

 

The brain of man developed in such a way that it seeks answers.

religion was merely a construct to soothe a people who had no answers and could not settle their lives without something to believe about these unanswerable at the time questions.

Now we have many of those answers.

its becoming obsolete

 

???

Jesus said, "I am the truth,... and the way and the life"... (John 14:6)

 

What you call god, is a misremembered alien civilization.

They came to earth in search of gold (According to Sumerian myths and legends that name the "Gods from the Sky", and found the neanderthal, or some other primitive people. They took their own DNA, and spliced in into neanderthal DNA, which the legends explain as "Putting their essence into them", creating a hybrid race (Creating humans in their own image). The Sumerians called this hybrid race the Adammu (aka Adam), which translates directly into The First Men. The Adammu were used as slaves to mine the gold for the aliens.

There have been gold mines found that date back to over 150,000 years ago. This is thousands of years before humans ever began to mine gold and other metals on our own, and there have been sumerian style artifacts found as far as North and South America. So, we know that someone brought their culture overseas, or that the cultures who made the artifacts found here started the same way. They did not have sea travel capability.

Some even believe that the Bumuda triangle, the Dragon's Triangle of Asia, and other areas known for technical disruption alien cities that were purposely sunken to keep humans from finding them and using technologies that were there, before they were ready, and that perhaps Atlantis was also one of these cities, judging by the stories of advanced technologies that surround it, or that perhaps atlantis was simply alegory for the distruction of the other cities. .

 

So basically....for over 700 years, we've been living in a world that you consider "sexually immoral"???

 

It gets real hard to keep believing in an Iron Age "God"....when your average American can see and BUY "wonders and miracles" that God couldn't come close to.

Plus, imagine the future....nano-technology able to take a shovel full of dirt and turn it into "loaves and fishes".....or some carbon atoms and a jug of water and turn it into wine?

 

Reality is dynamic. Adaptation is necessary.

While I agree reality is experienced by all, it is not percieved the same way by all. My preception of reality is in many ways diametrically opposed to the perception of an Islamist mullah or a white power pinhead or a genuflecting christian pilgram.


That is why I reject the notion of Truth with a capital T. (or at least what I percieve you attempting to describe to me).