So WHY did God create Man and the Universe?

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  1. Gorn Captain

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    So now....does the Creator create because He likes it, or needs to do it for financial reasons? :)

    If we even go with the first...the question remains...WHY does the Creator like to create? To what end or purpose does it serve Him?
     
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    Neither. He creates because he is the Creator.

    Similarity, man thinks because he is a thinker.
     
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    Odd...read a similar post just an hour and a half ago?

    So, why is it you have an answer for why the Baker bakes....but you don't for why the Creator creates???
     
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    The baker does not bake for the sake of baking. He is just another individual who takes up the art of Baking.

    A baker is not the Baker.
     
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    I believe in gravity. Very strongly. It's not a religion though.
     
  6. Incorporeal

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    Do you attempt to violate the rules of gravity?
     
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    Your god HASN'T shared anything, if he had it wouldn't be a mystery.


    Why do you have to be "lucky" to get your prize you didn't ask for?


    Why doesn't your god share a little "majesty" here and now?

    Why is your god so cruel that he creates something to make it suffer???
     
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    Perhaps not with you.


    Who is the one that said that they were "lucky"?


    Because the "majesty" and the "glory" belong to Him and Him alone. He is not obligated to share that which is His.

    That "cruel" thing that you see, is just your imagination running wild.
     
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    So the cruelty and suffering in this world is only a product of "imagination"? You must have a really cushy life....not everyone does...read a paper, listen to the news, read a book...LEARN something...
     
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    Yes, and many of the people going through such obstacles and difficulties in their lives nevertheless keep their chin up and faith strong. They welcome these difficulties, and see it as a opportunity to strengthen their character and belief in God.


    Some people on the other hand are not grateful for anything and prefer to look at the glass completely empty.
     
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    Good posting Goomba.

     
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    And you haven't answered any question.


    WHY would your god create a being to purposely make it suffer...how cruel, sadistic, meaningless, stupid, nasty, perverted and illogical.

    If your god needed adoration( a mental disease) why didn't he just create beings that adored him?
     
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    Let us speculate a little bit: Suppose God wanted to see how people such as yourself would react to the authority that He is vested with. After all, that is what you are doing in your descriptive words above... speculating.... have you ever met God in the spirit? Have you ever experienced a friendship with God? No? Then I would venture to express the guess that your speculations are a result of you being dissident to authority.
     
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    And you haven't answered any question.
    WHY would your god create a being to purposely make it suffer...how cruel, sadistic, meaningless, stupid, nasty, perverted and illogical.

    If your god needed adoration( a mental disease) why didn't he just create beings that adored him
     
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    Wow! Speculations don't count as an answer? Since when? Can you provide an answer to that/those questions that are not the result of sheer speculation? If you can, then please do provide that answer, as it would show that you know more about God than any other person who has ever lived on the planet (except maybe Jesus).
     
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    If you read the Bible right, you see that God created Truth as the one thing men can use to make life compatible with Reality
     
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    No, speculation doesn't count as an answer and DUHHHHHHHHHH It was I who asked the questions...why should I provide the answers??????????
     
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    Then being the intelligent person that you are, you should realize that the only answers that can be made to a subject matter pertaining to God can be nothing more than 'speculations'. If you cannot provide such answer to your questions, then your question in and of itself is a fishing trip. Throwing out some bait in the hopes of catching some poor unsuspecting fish in the pond.
     
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    I have to give you credit for admitting that anything pertaining to a "god" is speculation....even it's existence...
     
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    Well let me flabbergast you again....It is the only "LOGICAL" thing to do since (according to non-theists) there is no evidence for the existence of God or gods. LOL. Even though I say it is 'subjective' does not change my position in relation to its validity.. I still maintain my faith in God and my belief in the existence of God.
     
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    Like many of us made in His image, He is clearly a sadist.
     
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    To give atheist liberal trolls something to complain about.
     
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    It's your own silly and ignorant assumption that God created us to purposely make us suffer.

    From an Islamic perspective, He certainly did create beings that only "adored" Him. Angels for instance have no free will. Man does.

     
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    So in a sick need for adoration (a mental disease) he did create one set of entities but that wasn't enough for a super ego so he created more fun toys he could torture...


    And the buybull quotes prove nothing ever...
     
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    Huh? What does God not creating us to purposely make us suffer have to do with the above?

    Derp, you are the one who asked "Why would your God...

    According to the general atheist who has a juvenile and moronic view of God.
     

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