So, you see....

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    so you see. it isn't really about me.

    It's more about responsibilities.


    And when while being responsible the one is deemed inappropriate one begins to question the validity of that accuser's motive.


    So, I did what I was instructed. Then why?

    So, I did what I was instructed which might have led to another level... so then why?


    Why then the death for being responsible?

    Who was all that dying for?


    If while being responsible, then why was it being treated as being deceitful or wrongful if what was done was in line with responsibility even if it led to another level. Why the never ending non ceasing of accusations? When even though the person enters into the next level, life might resume as normal... with the responsibilities of all, if justifications will be given unto all, continuing on.. some being responsible, some not. Will each responsible person receive the same? Still needing to endure living among the others whose mockery and insults continue... going from the fire, to be destroyed in the fire, while being responsible in the fire, to even enter into the next level, to live, again, in the same fire of insults and reviling but this time without that life which one had to be able to get through. The past is as wiped away because it was as though that life was irresponsible while getting onto the life where the same daily occurrences happen.


    To not take any name in vain. That was being held in responsibility while that one was still alive, in his own past life. Sin? still... the sin and be forgiven ... The same never ending story.

    You have killed the worker.
    You have kept back his wages.
    You have destroyed the fruits borne.
    You have mocked and ridiculed.
    While you accepted.


    It's not about me being required to respect or honor you.

    That was being done while being killed


    It's about you needing to move on.

    Even when that forgiveness and that rebuilding re-was.
    The killings were still there waiting.
    Day after day after day.


    It's not about me.
    I was accused for many things.
    Even being the long haired man hanging on the crucifixes in Catholic Churches.

    My name is not INRI.


    I was accused of spreading deceit and slander to my mother, with the introduction of that fake name to her, while being responsible and doing what responsibility required when at that time, that is what responsibility required.

    She was no more before she had an opportunity to hear the next level.

    She was no more because of circumstances I had no authority over. Life maybe. She lived a responsible life. Nothing too much can be done about that. But why the need to have the child killed for no apparent justifiable reason?

    One says it's not unto death.
    Another agrees, many disagree.

    Who are the counsellors to what is seen regarding that child's cries? Or are they all in league; as a confederate?

    And so the counsellors fled.. some even passing away crying out 'wrong' because they were asked to be counsellors of Truth to speak Truth to what was about to be shown them... or what they had foreknown would become..

    So faith.. so that quiet faith to be killed all the day long as slaughtered sheep. Food for the dinner tables of those notable men who received of life's glory.. For the world is filled with the glory.


    And then there is right and wrong. Some counsellors might have passed into sleep. Some elders might have been scoffed into humiliation. Some true angels might have had their boned wings severed from their body. Why? exactly. Why and how?


    I'm sorry. I do not want to be thrown into the middle of guilty murderers just because Judges do not have knowledge but require 'testimonies' after 'testimonies'.

    I'm glad that the problems are fixed. No more can any use any wrongs of another for the justifications to self.. Especially if unable to remain away from those 'gifts' given to the wrong doers.

    You want to sin.. It might prove destructive to stand in the way.

    But for those that do not, nor have desire to be as 'sheep to be kept in slay pins', at least they don't need to remain to become 'food' for the wrong doers in the future if they should choose to not. Even because of some Power 'gift' normal human beings are incapable of overcoming without needing to go through that murderous torture by going through that 'false name' process. Some might enjoy sadomasochist suffering.


    Sin in itself is not in my home. Not if I'm able to make decisions to my home without being accused of wrong doing by another who is not invited into my home.


    Seemingly, it's about how one behaves and treats another.. even if that other is an unbeliever and practitioner of murder to unwilling, innocent blood. What's your meat of choice?

    It has been a never ending story. For the just and the unjust.

    All those verses of 'you have prepared for the slaughtered, you have made yourselves fat, you have murdered the righteous one, you have dishonored, you have prepared for the slaughtering, you have covered yourselves in the blood of the saints'....

    maybe these are about you first, all others, second.

    Why cry when not even attempting to do what is right so you do not have need to cry?


    Why cry for being involved when you are given the ability to be separated?


    For God so loved the world....
    Yes, so why not love the world also? The world, not wrong doers. The earth, not sin.

    enmity? hatred? against?

    in which direction? and why? which world? the world that is at enmity?


    Rather than complain, to myself by myself, I should just 'quiet up' and follow. right? I once had joy to follow before I spoke on my own as my own regarding the love I had.

    And this is what I was told.
     
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    I might have all of eternity to regain that 'love'.

    And so the solution.

    I shall be changed, in a twinkling of an eye. changed. changed. as though I have any choice as to what is changed. I have fear towards those who might have to endure watching this without having 'preferences' of right, themselves.

    the true inner man, being renewed day unto day. renewed, even after death? how many times can a man die and relive, day unto day? and by whom and for whom is that for?

    So maybe to finish the race is not about anything other than being renewed day unto day at another's Will to what is desired.


    And the redundancy. Then what is it that you 'want'/desire. is asked.

    day unto day unto day... being renewed to receive the same redundant question...


    They make themselves as rotten. One is unable to be without them while not being able to be with them... the inner man being renewed day after day unto day unto day.



    It's as though this is to show the wrong doers of how 'funny' they really can be.

    They keep forgetting about the women on the outskirts who have to watch them be as this. They always forget about the others while in this abominable hope to be accepted by the wrong doers as being 'one of them'; able to be just as 'alright' as any of the others the wrong doers deem as 'alright'. They are being reconciled to the world.. The world is not being reconciled to them. The earth and its creation with the children of creation has to endure until they and their sons of men and of God manifest some great expectation and manifestation the creation and their huios-es would be able to accept and rejoice, with. Every thing which has breath can produce offspring, yes? Even their very own huios-es, yes?

    The world is not only about obstinate breathing ones contrary to well being.

    By whom was animal blood shedding done away with?

    Continue the murders, continue the need for Salvation while living among them, being judged on how they are being treated, with accusations or not. It's as 'fun'. But not for the victims.


    By whom was one a victim that animal blood shedding was done away with?
    the very one whom all attend services to learn about, in Truth and in Spirit.

    'victim', one asks. 'I'm the victim for needing to go through this', he continues.


    It is not about glory.. it is not about fame.. it is not about renown. it is about life and life without needing to be a victim.



    Enough about you. Enough about me. Enough about the Church. What about the ladies? The same sex the other lady is the same as? The same sex the elect lady who holds onto the truth is of?


    2 (J)ohn 4 "I rejoiced greatly that I found of thy children walking in truth, as we have received a commandment from the Father."

    where is this commandment found?


    we have received:
    2983. lambanó ►
    Strong's Concordance
    lambanó: to take, receive
    Original Word: λαμβάνω
    Part of Speech: Verb
    Transliteration: lambanó
    Phonetic Spelling: (lam-ban'-o)
    Definition: to take, receive
    Usage: (a) I receive, get, (b) I take, lay hold of.
    HELPS Word-studies

    2983 lambánō (from the primitive root, lab-, meaning "actively lay hold of to take or receive," see NAS dictionary) – properly, to lay hold by aggressively (actively) accepting what is available (offered). 2983 /lambánō ("accept with initiative") emphasizes the volition (assertiveness) of the receiver.

    NAS Exhaustive Concordance
    Word Origin
    from a prim. root lab-
    Definition
    to take, receive
    NASB Translation
    accept (1), accepting (1), attempted* (1), bring (2), caught (1), caught caught (1), collect (1), collected (1), conferred* (2), conspired* (1), consulted* (1), experienced* (1), forgotten* (1), gets (1), gripped (1), incur (1), married (2), marry (2), obtained (1), occupy (1), overtaken (1), partial* (1), picked (2), receive (63), received (48 ), receives (14), receiving (6), seizes (1), shows (1), struck (1), take (24), taken (7), takes (3), taking (9), took (50).



    father: provider and sustainer


    where is this commandment from The Father in The Gospels or in the Old Testament?
     
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    1785. entolé

    Strong's Concordance

    entolé: an injunction, order, command

    Original Word: ἐντολή, ῆς, ἡ
    Part of Speech: Noun, Feminine
    Transliteration: entolé
    Phonetic Spelling: (en-tol-ay')
    Definition: an injunction, order, command
    Usage: an ordinance, injunction, command, law.


    4687. mitsvah

    Strong's Concordance

    mitsvah: commandment

    Original Word: מִצְוָה
    Part of Speech: Noun Feminine
    Transliteration: mitsvah
    Phonetic Spelling: (mits-vaw')
    Definition: commandment




    6310. peh

    Strong's Concordance

    peh: mouth

    Original Word: פֶה
    Part of Speech: Noun Masculine
    Transliteration: peh
    Phonetic Spelling: (peh)
    Definition: mouth


    The unwritten but spoken ordinances/commandments; The 'Mosaic' Law(s).

    Numbers 9:23 "At the commandment of the LORD..."


    truth:

    225. alétheia
    Strong's Concordance
    alétheia: truth
    Original Word: ἀλήθεια, ας, ἡ
    Part of Speech: Noun, Feminine
    Transliteration: alétheia
    Phonetic Spelling: (al-ay'-thi-a)
    Definition: truth
    Usage: truth, but not merely truth as spoken; truth of idea, reality, sincerity, truth in the moral sphere, divine truth revealed to man, straightforwardness.
    HELPS Word-studies
    225 alḗtheia (from 227 /alēthḗs, "true to fact") – properly, truth (true to fact), reality.

    [In ancient Greek culture, 225 (alḗtheia) was synonymous for "reality" as the opposite of illusion, i.e. fact.]


    NAS Exhaustive Concordance
    Word Origin
    from aléthés
    Definition
    truth
    NASB Translation
    certainly* (2), most (1), rightly* (1), truly* (2), truth (104).

    Thayer's Greek Lexicon
    STRONGS NT 225: ἀλήθεια

    ἀλήθεια, (ας, ἡ (ἀληθής) (from Homer down), verity, truth.
    I. objectively;

    1. universally, what is true in any matter under consideration (opposed to what is feigned, fictitious, false): was shown to be true by the event, 2 Corinthians 7:14. ἐν ἀλήθεια, in truth, truly, as the case is, according to fact: Matthew 22:16; John 4:23f (as accords with the divine nature); 2 Corinthians 7:14; Colossians 1:6; ἐπ' ἀληθείας a. truly, in truth, according to truth: Mark 12:32; Luke 4:25 (Job 9:2 the Sept.; Philo, vit. Moys. i., § 1).

    b. of a truth, in reality, in fact, certainly: (according to the context) justly, without partiality:

    2. In reference to religion, the word denotes what is true in things appertaining to God and the duties of man, (`moral and religions truth'); and that a. with the greatest latitude, in the sceptical question τί ἐστιν ἀλήθεια, John 18:38;

    b. the true notions of God which are open to human reason without his supernatural intervention: truth, the embodiment of which the Jews sought in the Mosaic law, Romans 2:20.
     
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    How would the Gentile believers whom the writer of 2 (J)ohn was writing to have known of any
    Old testament 'Laws'?


    2 (J)ohn 1:10-11
    "If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed: 11For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds."


    do not greet nor try to share rejoicing news to any who do not bring with them the doctrine of truth because to do so is to share in the same work as they do, which is evil.


    evil:
    4190. ponéros

    Strong's Concordance
    ponéros: toilsome, bad

    Original Word: πονηρός, ά, όν
    Part of Speech: Adjective
    Transliteration: ponéros
    Phonetic Spelling: (pon-ay-ros')
    Definition: toilsome, bad
    Usage: evil, bad, wicked, malicious, slothful.
    HELPS Word-studies

    4190 ponērós (an adjective which is also used substantively, derived from 4192 /pónos, "pain, laborious trouble") – properly, pain-ridden, emphasizing the inevitable agonies (misery) that always go with evil.



    not to impart to another.. not to give as commandment to another.. not to force upon another... not to rule and jurisdict over... this is not the work, if one should share the message of rejoicing unto those without the 'truth', which is partaking of the 'evil'. not true.

    (Government -vs- Bible Thumpers) in the Case of etc etc etc...

    The evil is to tell such a one without the truth to be blessed and continue onward with their own rejoicing although their rejoicing is not in the truth. To welcome such a one and let them go, rejoicing wrongfully without sharing the true Gospel of 'rejoicing' is as slothful.... 'evil'.

    Maybe these welcoming ones want them cut off and to receive the 'evils', 'they deserve'???



    Die! you Evil ones! Burn in eternal Hell!!!

    I, on the other hand, shall not fuco unto my demise.

    in other words, I'm not a dissembler.. I'm not an embellisher. I'm not a dyer. I'm more on the 'perfect' side ... :) :) :)



    It's not about me.. .It's not about you.. But most definitely it's not about sending away, going away just as idle or wrong as 'from the beginning', as the Commandment of The Father ... etc etc.. etc... blah blah blah...


    Do.. the right.
    Speak the right.
    Don't suggest the wrong.

    we are all wrong. Gentiles included, with their only 4 'Commandments' they received in Acts 15.

    Commandments spoken and agreed upon by and with The Holy Spirit and the Apostles. The foundation being of the Apostles and The Prophets with Christ Messiah as the Chief Cornerstone.

    To prefer any, is to show honor and respect... if in the upward direction.. If in the downward, the same applies but without the upward direction submission.

    To love Christ Messiah.. upward motion
    To love children.. downward with same without the submission.


    Did He speak of God and The Heavenly Father?
    Did He speak of/on To His Own 'glory'?

    What did He speak?

    What did He speak?



    What did He speak that is an absolute Truth(s) which 'saves' unto Salvation?



    What did He speak pertaining to dying in 'your sins'?



    If sin is forgiven then can a person 'die' in their 'sins'? Is dying in 'your sins' to die while 'sinning in those sins'? Dying practicing those 'sins' and not turning away from them? in Actuality.. not in allusions or interpretations...
     
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    And so we move onward.. from being responsible to being responsible more in The Correct/Right/Truth Way. Leaving the fundamental elements of believing as a child unto deciding as a man.

    I was taught His Name was (J)esus when I was a child but when I became a man, I learned and put aside my childish ways and reasons.


    Do I need to be as sheep led to the slaughter for doing this?

    Does anyone?

    Does any have any right to keep me enslaved to become as 'food for their belly' of which is the god of many; their belly.
     
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    So wherefore now is the condemnation which is in the onward progression in Truth to The Truth to worship in The Truth more in Truth and in Spirit - The Spirit testifying also, that God and The LORD seeketh after such.
     
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    2 (J)ohn 1:7-11
    "7For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that (J)esus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist. 8Look to yourselves, that we lose not those things which we have wrought, but that we receive a full reward. 9Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son. 10If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed: 11For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds."

    To abide in the doctrine of Whom? Of (J) Christ?

    Could the Apostle Paul had a prophetic ministry as well to the future of mankind?


    Is this name, (J) associated with Christ being spread all over the world?


    What is The Heavenly Father's name, if thou canst say.

    Proverbs 30:1-2
    "The words of Agur the son of Jakeh, even the prophecy: the man spake unto Ithiel, even unto Ithiel and Ucal,

    2Surely I am more brutish than any man, and have not the understanding of a man."


    I'm more brutish than any man, not having understanding as a man ought.'


    Proverbs 30:4 "Who hath ascended up into heaven, or descended? who hath gathered the wind in his fists? who hath bound the waters in a garment? who hath established all the ends of the earth? what is his name, and what is his son's name, if thou canst tell?"


    What is The Name of The Heavenly Father, if any canst tell? (J)ehovah?


    If Yehovah, then Yesus?

    If YHWH, then neither Yesus or Jesus?


    Why was the W changed to V in YHWH to become Yehovah from Yahweh (?)?


    Why should I not speak of YHWH and its pronunciation?

    Because I would only be deceiving myself if I thought I knew how to.


    Is this satisfactory enough to advance to the next 'grade' in learning?
     
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