Socail Media shows the true characters

People have to wonder just why people simply gloss over one of the most telling points of the current election.

https://thewest.com.au/politics/fed...-quits-over-social-media-posts-ng-b881187495z



Once again, in interest of disclosure, I believe the handling of this by Shorten shows he will excuse anything to be elected. Clearly all the rhetoric about addressing women’s rights and respect and Domestic Violence is just that, Rhetoric. Excusing a candidate for posting rape jokes and denigrating women, as a teacher of the nation’s children as just youth and contrition is simply disgusting and demonstrative of how he really feels.



Ok, so now you know my bias, let us try get past that and discuss the issue...



What is this??? 5 or 6 candidates??? Seriously, the Coalition has considerable problem with the support of fascist groups and clearly some have aligned their beliefs (or ignorance your choice) to post their hatred on social media, to garner support??? Motive is questionable, if political or just trolling there is huge gap between the two and clearly it is the truth of their beliefs. Should the party be condemned for the few??? No, but the response is questionable but reasonable.


But claim a cover up has occurred because there are questionable posts. To claim that the evidence of that cover up is that the candidate was sacked… utter rubbish designed to sucker the gullible.


Forgetting the point of the demonstration of character of Shorten, the ALP made it a difference of type while trying to condemn the actions of the Coalition. I have noted the hypocrisy of several ALP members (most notably Shadow treasurer) in this and Palmer preferences and yet, nothing said.

So I have to ask, is this Australia??? Talk of fair go, equal rights and tolerant society seems to be just that, talk. Where one party has considerable representation of racist views and another who tolerate the abuse of women and children. Does Australia really think that is the standard the world should follow???


Just why isn’t it spoken about as a serious matter like it is???

 

Victims of the "politically correct" world....we expect perfection from all especially politicians, if you show a flaw you must die... or at least lose your job your family all respect and dignity in the community and tainted as "untouchable" for the rest of your life.

I call bullshit ^^^

 

I guess the word statesman means nothing to you?

 

oh look another little one liner I need to respond to.... you can take your personal attack and shove it, then come back and try a teeny weeny bit harder.

 

So no?

 

We're down to two words


here let me help you (next post 3 dots)

 

Politicians, police, DoCS workers etc have to have standards higher than the average person. If a person chooses a career that has a "duty of care" and where what could be an innocent mistake could affect hundreds of not thousands of lives.

Doctors and others, ambulance personnel for example cannot make mistakes.

 

I'll leave that sort of thing to you, I'll debate points.

 

As far as I'm concerned social media is a lynch mob out of control, (refer all the out of control campaigns #Metoo, smearing of Jeffrey Rush, many others- don't have time to look all of it upright now). What is happening today is WAY over the top.

 

Then a smart person would be careful what they post there ,yes?

 

of course, however social media is used as a weapon and we have had incidents where posts went back to high school, which is ridiculous as far as I'm concerned, show me a politically correct high school student, they have their foot in their mouth 24/7

 

Welcome to the 21st Century, like it or loath it, change happens, we change with it or be changed by it, the decision is usually ours.

 

Well I clearly said it's bullshit as far as I'm concerned. We've basically argued in a circle just so you can insult me, hope you feel good about yourself now

 

I have no reason or desire to insult you or anyone I apologise if you felt insulted.

 

What??? "Politically correct"??? You cannot be serious???


I would expect people who want to stand up and oppose Child abuse, neglect, violence against women, domestic violence would not consider RAPE jokes as funny or child abuse satirical just to garner a laugh.

I would expect the people who represent to create a tolerant society against racism, bigotry and neglect would not consider posting ignorant hatred as funny or just a lark.


It clearly demonstrates the belief of the particular candidate and yes if against the norms of society should be ostracised by community.

Political correctness in this case is just an excuse to exempt poor behaviour for political expediency and deserves the same respect as the people provide…

 

Often we talk about who thinks what and what they support. We look at many different sources to find support or oppose stances on subjects. BUT nothing can be more informative than the words from the mouths of the people themselves.

I understand your problem with campaigns to create opposition, twist comment or even just make the people look bad. And these could well have come to light because of such campaigns but the issue is not made up or perceived, these people posted such. the posts altered are not the problem but the posts from their mouths.

Now I assume you think the posts made by the ALP candidate were from his high school years, this is true, when 22yrs old while TEACHING at high school. As stated, this is the attitude of teachers, teaching??? That isn’t just politically incorrect it is deeply disturbing that they have access to influence teenagers in many ways and rape jokes are the norm???

Seriously, you have to consider what you support and how. I don’t know anybody who supports such actions from any side of the political spectrum.

 

Well then you'll probably be highly offended by this

https://twitter.com/rickygervais/status/1079784120945967104?lang=en

I agree with LR on at least one issue and that is that as a politician you need to be careful what you post, however I absolutely insist that social media have become nothing more than a lynch mob, completely out of control and overreacting to the smallest of issues.

In fact people scour through thousands of tweets and FB posts to find that special "one" that may be offensive to any one of the multitude of minorities out there screaming for blood, and they do constantly, scream for blood... insatiable.

and so I'll leave you with this highly offensive joke... about domestic violence which I think is hilarious....

 

Well the truth in this comment is at odds I believe.

But I would ask, do you intend on addressing the subject or just continue to insult the members??? Might prove interesting if you would actually debate a topic...

 

Social media as a lynch mob, what I find interesting about that is that you want to condemn the source because it reaches huge amount of people while excusing the act. Nobody forced them to make such post.

I am not sure what you call smallest issues, rape jokes, perhaps the particular candidate rating the women and girls for sex??? As the comment stated “ the standard you walk by is the standard you accept” if they were just childish rants, or even possible misconceptions you might be able to excuse them, which I am sure Shorten was hoping when he tried to excuse his comments. But they are not.

Clearly, you are unaware of the subject your defending, “ONE” post, no a serious of posts over a period of time, an indication of what these people stand for.

What I find funny about this, YOU complain when posters set out to insult YOU, then…

 

Oh did I rattle your bucket ?

Maybe you should look at most of your own posts before you go judging others ... Oh sorry I forget that you are god.

 

Rattle my bucket... No, just thought that instead of trolling others you might want to actually discuss issues. Apparently not...

 

Did you see the write up about Mark Latham's speech. I loved it!!! Standing ovation from me Mr Latham

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-05-08/mark-latham-makes-maiden-speech-to-nsw-parliament/11093386

 

Wow

People like to trace back history to and when it suits them. In Australia we love to trace our history back to settlement and we look at it from "our" point of view.
We do the same with our European history, we rant and rave about our achievements in science and technology. What we neglect to consider is that our science and especially mathematics are from the Middle East.
Colonisation did nothing for the traditional and rightful owners of this continent.
There is an enormous amount of documented accounts of a deliberate campaign to either totally eliminate them, to breed them out or to take away most human rights and in particular, take away the rights that colonialists have.
Australia has "progressed" enormously since settlement/imvasion but we are starting to see the devastation we have caused to an entire race of people, their history, language ,culture, sovereignty. We are seeing devastation to the environment, entire river ecosystems in imminent danger, changes to weather patterns by global warming and vast deforestation, changes in underground water tables and soil salinity and the introduction of thousands of noxious weeds and animals.

Yes the greens have nothing to go on, just about everything actually.

 

The problem is balance, we have demonised colonisation to something evil, when colonisation have brought us the civilisation we live in today... the internet you surf, the posts you make that allows you ^^^ opinion would not be possible without colonisation.

It is true that colonisation have devastated natives in those countries colonised, however it is also true that those who built upon their colonial roots went ahead in leaps and bounds (Singapore, Britain) and those who destroyed their colonial roots (like many African countries) are now once more living in the dark ages, starvation, disease and hunger.

Britain (I'm paraphrasing someone else) would be nothing more than a Druid backwater if they did not build on their colonial roots, left behind by the Romans (left to them by the Etruscans - a highly civilised people thousands of years ago).

It is important we push back towards the centre, we should be able to acknowledge the achievements of colonisation AND the heartache and devastation it caused... remember many Europeans were colonised too at some point in their history.

 

I agree totally, but if we don't turn things around in a big way in a big hurry it may not be impossible to fix, but economically it could be.

I remember a Christian preacher saying in a sernom, if you follow the word of god and he does exist you will be safe, if god doesn't exist then you will have lived a good life.

It goes the same for things like climate change. If the deniers are right and we clean up our act, we have a cleaner environment. If climate change is happening we may be able to minimise the outcome.

If we do nothing we keep polluting and possibly destroy the planet as we know it. We make more money.

If we do something, we may save our R'ses.

No choice in my honest opinion.