Discussion in 'Latest US & World News' started by qmuddy2, Aug 15, 2019.
I edited the post but you were faster. Okay to use the stock market as the basis for return?
Republicans will likely raise the retirement age and reduce benefits by 10-20%. They won't end the program.
No. You would not have picked winners every time.
Sure if you like open borders and hate.
Winners and losers would have averaged out to the average net gain over the years.
Here is one person's calculation:
Since there are so many who get way more than they ever paid, and some getting SS for life who have never paid, it only follows that someone like me who has always paid will get screwed in the end.
No, social democrats dislike the elderly and infants, those that are unable to work and those that cannot function well in society. Republicans believe in 401ks and investment planning for retirement.
It's more likely the dems will reduce payments due to restructuring to cover more folks.
It's more likely the reps will reduce payments due to folks receiving payments from personal investment plans.
Either way, if you are on ss only, it's going to be a tough ride.
Democrats believe Social Security and Medicare is their money to do with as they wish.
The dems are no more for open borders than the GOP, and the GOP seems to hate far more than everyone else.
Republicans dislike the elderly and infants, those that are unable to work and those that cannot function well in society.
Bet you can prove that like you 'proved' the NRA wants guns in the hands of violent felons.
Only if they want the R party to no longer exist.
Please, keep saying stuff like this
The NRA does not support good laws to keep the guns out of violent felons, yep.
Democrats are for post-birth abortion and death panels for old folks. Find something else to spin. Your party owns it.
The Republicans will end Social Security if elected in the next term.
Old folks panels were started by GWB and pushed by Michele Bachman.
Vote for the Dems if you wish to keep your social security.
Only one party is against public assistance and frequently call an insurance that you have likely paid into your entire life, welfare. That would be republicans. If anyone is going to remove or defund it, it will be them.
That was in the House bill for healthcare in 2009, introduced by Nancy Pelosi. Remember her telling the public we would know what was in it when it passed into law?
A pack of lies. O care started death panels. So why did Trump not end it with full control of all houses? You must think you are talking to gullible children.
Watch, I can do the same thing...Democrats want to give all of our SS to illegal aliens for their votes.
The lies are the the GOP will not end Social Security it they can, mangle it (like ACA) if they can't.
The old folks were indeed started by GWB.
Educated voters can tell when the far right goe nutty.
The real fear with social security is that the democrats will place a wealth qualifier on receiving benefits - if a person has a decent 401 and IRAs and perhaps some investments, they won't get anything even though they paid in, because they "already have enough anyway" (from each according to ability, to each according to need.)
Regardless, I will not sell my vote to the dems for the mere pittance of a return I will get on what I paid in social security. If republicans do try to change it, they will make allowances for those who have paid in over the years.
roo, baby, is talking about means testing, for the very wealthy, not everyone, and the changes will be for the lowest retirement incomes.
The GOP will break SS if it can.
Not a chance. Zero chance. Relax.
roo, baby? Good one.
(Here is where I will tit-for-tat fear-monger like you and others often do with made-up crap) The dems will penalize anyone who has worked hard, been frugal, and made good decisions to amass a nest-egg. $300,000 net worth and social security benefits will be cut. $600,000 net worth and you get nothing. (of course both of us are lying)
Nancy told me so.
The difference is that I am obviously suggesting a sensible plan while the GOP simply cannot.
What's your "sensible plan" ?
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