social security end if republicans win in 2020 ?

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  1. Nemesis

    Nemesis Well-Known Member

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    Err, huh?

    Slapping a load of slogans together is not a plan.

    How will they accomplish this chaotic stream of consciousness ?
     
  2. Just_a_Citizen

    Just_a_Citizen Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If crossing illegally is something the Democrats look to have decriminalized, what else would you call it?
     
  3. Just_a_Citizen

    Just_a_Citizen Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Better get your program's translator updated.
     
  4. LangleyMan

    LangleyMan Well-Known Member

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    Evidence? Some are, but how many?
    SDS began as a mild left protest and morphed into a more radical organization. I knew some SDS types who dropped out as the organization changed. "The Bitch" as you called her could have been anything from a moderate in favor of civil rights and opposed to the Vietnam War to a commie.
     
  5. LangleyMan

    LangleyMan Well-Known Member

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    Decriminalizing being her illegally (overstaying a visa) doesn't mean they get to stay.
     
  6. Just_a_Citizen

    Just_a_Citizen Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If her is over staying, her can be deported.

    Her will never get her a visa again.
     
  7. Doofenshmirtz

    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Not a chance. It would be nice to be able to opt out. Most of us can do much better on our own.
     
  8. Just_a_Citizen

    Just_a_Citizen Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Really?


    My mother was a wild Burn-This-Mother to The Ground Socialist wack job, went on to Weather Underground Greatness, through any number of AssHat Hijinx . But that's not something worth talking about really, outside of assuring you, I'm well aware of what that group, and several associates, we're looking to do. Hijacking the pliable Hippie Movement was a snap, and gave great cover. Flowers in gun barrels, while bombs were being built in VW Busses.
     
  9. JakeStarkey

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    SS is an insurance pay out, not welfare, and any who calls it such needs to be pointed out as one who lacks understanding of SS.
     
  10. JakeStarkey

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    There is alway a chance the GOP would kill it, but none will never be allowed to opt out, because most would become wards of the states and nation in their old age.
     
  11. JakeStarkey

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    Better check your word checker.

    If she overstays her visa, then deport her. And, of course, she can reapply, for it is worth.
     
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    exactly, the price of things would just go up

    it's like in the past one bread earner could support a family, two working was a bonus in the past, now it takes two

    and like you said, then when these people get old, they have no money and the state still has to care for them
     
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  13. Just_a_Citizen

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    I was cracking wise.

    And she shouldn't be able to, is my point.
     
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    make people have to go to the welfare office to apply for social security, the rich would stop applying
    republicans see it as socialism, they want to kill it
     
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    If you say so. Yes, the GOP will try to kill or radically alter SS to help the rich if elected in 2020 and dominate the House.

    Any who call SS 'socialism' don't understand what is SS.
     
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    I would be fine making it like a 401k.. BUT have a bottom that is equal to social security, so if the market crashes you get as much as you would of with social security

    if Republicans think the market is so much better, add in that guarantee - would not cost a dime if they were right, put there money where their mouth is
     
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    No, Trump is the "genius" you guys follow. :rolleyes:
     
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    You are incorrect. Being able to opt out would create competition, which is better for the investor. SS gives a poor return if any return at all. Government has shown that they are not worthy of our trust when it comes to our hard earned money.
     
  19. LangleyMan

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    There is way too much ANGER.
     
  20. LangleyMan

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    I said I taught with them, not they were my pals.
    My President would be someone I support. It isn't Trump and wasn't Obama.
    Sure, they are--Tim Ryan, Steve Bullock, Joe Biden.
    Trump is a jerk. He seems to be going out of his way to lose the next elelection.
     
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    Politicians on both sides treat the money that was supposed to be set aside for our retirement like its theirs. If you add up what you pay into SS over your lifetime, you could have purchased a home to live in or rent out. Thats not a bad bottom!
     
  22. JakeStarkey

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    The game would be rigged against the tax payers in favor of the bank 'stock raisers' who would guaranteed to raise the 'sheeple' for the benefit of the corporations.
     
  23. JakeStarkey

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    Langley Man, I remember, and you should, that Trump was acting like he was trying to lose the last election until the last ten days.
     
  24. Doofenshmirtz

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    Then why isn't it rigged now? SS is a bad deal we are forced to accept.
     
  25. JakeStarkey

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    No, it is not until the GOP try to "fix" it to help the rich.
     

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