Socialism works every time it's tried.

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  1. Questerr

    Questerr Banned

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    Cool. So then the Right can no longer call people like Bernie and AOC who advocate for the same policies as Scandinavian social democracies “socialists”. Clearly they are advocating capitalism policies when they call for high taxes on the rich, universal healthcare, and other policies those national have.
     
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    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I would have preferred to take the money I contributed to SS and invested it myself.
     
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    If this is the type of argument you have to make the “socialists” have already won.
     
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    And if your investments failed, would you have been cool with you and your family starving in the gutter?
     
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    as was to be expected the people who can't comprehend the difference between climate and weather have no clue what socialism is or what it is not...
     
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    interesting, so bernie & his cronies are perpetrating a fraud you say...
     
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    My investments have done very well and I was smart enough to make sure that my investments are not my sole income source.
     
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    How do you figure?
     
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    it'd be better than having the dems steal a huge chunk of it to finance welfare/medicare for illegals...
     
  10. Questerr

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    And if they hadn’t, would you have been cool with you and your family starving? If you had the bad luck to get hurt and not be able to work in addition to having failing investments?

    Or would you have wanted a socialist bailout?
     
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    Illegal immigrants are not eligible for either.
     
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    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You seem to have missed my point that SS and my investments are not my sole source of retirement income.
     
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    Yeah, you have the privilege of good health that allowed you to work long enough to get a pension?
     
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    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Good health, hard work and planning ahead. I refuse to apologize for being a success.
     
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    Congratulations on your privilege.
     
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    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    thank you
     
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    Have you ever thought about how that very easily could have turned out quite different based on things entirely out of your control?
     
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    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Sure. I have been very fortunate. I also know that my good fortune did hot happen by accident. I worked for it.

    Maybe you should think about the rest of the world. It was also out of their control. Shouldn't you be contributing most of your income to their survival. Even after you did that you would still be better off than they are. While you are essentially accusing me of greed, what have you done for your fellow humans? Our poorest are much better off than much of the world.
     
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    One word for the OP-----------------------Venezuela!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
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    I'd find it refreshing to read a critique of socialism that reflects an actual knowledge of what it is, and what its history is, for a change.

    Nope. Not true. The primary goal of socialism is to eliminate private ownership of business and industry for private profit.

    Nope. Wrong again. What you're referring to is self defense of Marxists when they have been attacked. They won in the cases you cite.

    Nope. Those were capitalists who refused to take no for an answer. There were also those who conceded.

    That cannot be honestly said since there has never been a nation in which the working class owned and ran the businesses and industry.

    I'd find it refreshing to read a critique of socialism that reflects an actual knowledge of what it is, and what its history is, for a change.
     
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    Whatever that means. Just because a country has a large welfare system, it doesn’t make it socialist. Every single Nordic country has a free market economic model, which is the complete opposite of a socialist model.
     
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    visit a sanctuary, not only do they get medicare/aid, housing allowances & wic (food stamps) they even get ssn and state id for driving...
     
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    so being a hard working taxpaying decent individual is being priviliged ?
     
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    So you would rather be starving and in the gutter than have welfare for illegals ?! That makes no sense.
     
  25. Kode

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    Bunk.
    To get Medicare, you have to be a U.S. citizen or a permanent legal resident who has lived in the United States for at least five years.
    To qualify for food stamps (SNAP) a person must be able to prove citizenship or legal presence in the U.S.
    To get a SSN a non-resident must be here legally and must have a job.

    But keep on misrepresenting the facts. You'll get known for it, and you are.
     

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