Solution to Abortion Problem

Discussion in 'Abortion' started by HereWeGoAgain, Jan 30, 2018.

  1. Dayton3

    Dayton3 Well-Known Member

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    I won't address your "entire post" until you put it into a more compact easy to read on a single page form. Adding all that space is a needless distraction.
     
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    tecoyah Well-Known Member

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    2018-20 are likely to be a watershed period in this country developing from a Dem wave to a womans political invasion of our system over a decade or so. I anticipate a VERY different society within 30 years making white Christian male dominance an interesting chapter in history books...we could even call it a revolution.
    This is already in place outside the U.S. in western cultures to some extent and seems to be awaiting our push over an edge. I would not e surprised to see a female President here shortly, SCOTUS will follow suit.
     
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    Fine, then don't have an abortion!
     
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    Chester_Murphy Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I hope so, we need to stop using logic when we make decisions and use emotions. We can figure out the logic later.
     
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    ...and a good excuse for you to not face the facts presented ;)
     
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    Here , I'll make post 207, which you ignored, more accessible so you can answer :)


    Why Anti-Choicers want to punish women for having sex.


    Why would else would the Anti-Choice faction make an exception if the pregnancy is due to rape?

    Why else would the Anti-Choice faction want to take away women's right to their own bodies?

    Why else would the Anti-Choice faction want to control women like cattle?

    Why else would the Anti-Choice faction want to ban abortion? If abortion is banned women who have them will be PUNISHED.



    There, no REAL reason to not answer those questions now :)
     
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    Whats LARC?
     
  8. Dayton3

    Dayton3 Well-Known Member

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    1) I don't want to punish women for having sex. I don't consider an unintended pregnancy a punishment.
    2) Already answered. Mainly for practical reasons in obtaining broad support for limiting elective abortions.
    3) A persons right to their own bodies is not unlimited. Especially when it has a broader impact on other life and society in general.
    4) I don't want to "control women like cattle". a few months pregnancy hardly constitutes that.
    5) Actually if abortion is banned I would prefer to focus punishments on the persons who perform the abortions. Much more efficient that way.

    Now, your self serving questions are answered. Don't ask them again.
     
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    Then have all the pregnancies you like but many women do consider it a punishment (especially if it's FORCED)and THEY are the ones who have to be pregnant.

    Anti-Choicers consider it punishment because they want to FORCE women to stay pregnant....but not if it's due to rape....

    YES, deception and hypocrisy, the tools of the Anti-Choicers.

    Why do they think a fetus that exists due to rape doesn't have a right to life?

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    So someone can force you to give them your heart or other body part to sustain their life because YOUR right to your body is "limited"?

    Women are not obligated to care for the impact of their abortions on others or society......

    The impact on "others" is all in "other's" tiny heads.




    FORCED breeding is treating women like cattle and continually denigrating what women go through with pregnancy shows a decided bent towards misogyny.


    Your denial of what pregnancy entails doesn't change the truth...




    MORE deception and hypocrisy ..... If a person hires a hitman to kill someone and they do, the person who did the hiring is charged the same as the killer.

    Anti-Choicers want to pretend that women are just helpless victims, it makes them appear as if they have an ounce of compassion and they don't..

    If they did they wouldn't want women forced to gestate or have dangerous abortions and die or be maimed like they were in the past.....guess they DO!!!!




    That sounds so controlling and egotistical....oh, ya, an Anti-Choicer :)
     
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    I've never heard anyone suggest forcing women to "breed".

    and no one should be forced to suffer significant permanent physical injury on behalf of another. And as you well know, most pregnancies do not cause significant permanent physical injury. If you say otherwise you are being dishonest. Now I suppose you'll list those "possible" pregnancy complications that you love to trot out for your ethically bankrupt and morally abhorrent argument.
     
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    Your denial of science when it proves you so wrong is quite funny....and pathetic...but it IS all you've got :)


    Your ethical bankrupt and morally abhorrent argument allows you to let "murderers" go free (women who hire an abortion doctor) as does your support of making women suffer significant permanent physical injury on behalf of another when YOU don't ever have to.
     
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    You want to control women’s reproductive freedom
     
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    WHY do women need prenatal care?


    YOU claim NOTHING happens to women during pregnancy.....why would they need prenatal care? Or have to go to a doctor?
     
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    I don't believe in punishing people who merely hire killers. I believe in punishing trigger pullers.
     
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    Well, then you appear not to believe in the law. So you think anyone can hire killers to kill at will but the person doing the hiring is a nice guy and deserves no punishment?!!!!!

    But yet you want to punish women for getting pregnant!!!!!!

    Unbelievable....





    Now DO tell me why you support prenatal care....that was hilarious!
     
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    RIGHT HERE! :)


    Dayton3 said:
    I've never heard anyone suggest forcing women to "breed".

    and no one should be forced to suffer significant permanent physical injury on behalf of another. And as you well know, most pregnancies do not cause significant permanent physical injury. If you say otherwise you are being dishonest. Now I suppose you'll list those "possible" pregnancy complications that you love to trot out for your ethically bankrupt and morally abhorrent argument."""""



    Note: Use of the word "most".
     
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    WHY? You claim NOTHING happens to them during pregnancy.....WHY would they need prenatal care? Or any care?

    Why do they go to a hospital to deliver ? Can't they just pop it out on their sofa???
     
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    Prenatal care helps result in healthy babies.

    And I guess you didn't know that historically delivering a baby at a hospital is a pretty recent phenomena. For example President Carter was the first American president born in a hospital.

    And once again you are lying about what I claimed. I never claimed nothing happens to women during pregnancy. I said MOST pregnancies do not result in significant permanent damage to a woman's body. And that is true.
     
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    If they don't want to bear the unwanted child then forcing them to do so is enslaving them.
     
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    Why does your individual opinion matter more than the Law of the Land protecting the rights of women?
     
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