Solution to Abortion Problem

Discussion in 'Abortion' started by HereWeGoAgain, Jan 30, 2018.

  1. tecoyah

    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Government has the mandate,,,,Church does not and YOU most certainly don't.
     
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    Hmmmm does the government force Americans to give up guns?
     
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    Absolutely
     
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    occasionally. Yeah I know you're going to try to cast me as some kind of 2nd Amendment absolutist and gun nut. You'd be wrong on both cases. I would gladly give up my one firearm if it meant the end of elective abortions in the United States.
     
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    Which is a totally illogical and irrelevant statement especially as it concerns women's right and abortion...


    :) Maybe you should give up your gun to stop abortion since that's about as effective as anything else :)
     
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  6. Dayton3

    Dayton3 Well-Known Member

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    I know its irrelevant but why then did Bowerbird bring it up?
     
  7. FoxHastings

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    :) Ya, I know, I know, the woman made you do it....it's all her fault, not yours....LOL, so typical....

    ..and it helped you out avoiding all those INCOVENIENT posts you couldn't address :)
     
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  8. Dayton3

    Dayton3 Well-Known Member

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    I didn't even know Bowerbird was a woman. For that matter, I don't know if you're male or female. I really don't care one way or the other.
     
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    You still blamed somone else for your actions.....care to go back to the topic? Or have you another topic you want to segue into so you don't have to face any INCONVENIENT posts?
     
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  10. Dayton3

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    Going back as far as post #325 I can't find where the "topic" has been addressed. I believe the government and society (as partially determined by me and others like me) has the full right (and for that matter responsibility) to "encourage" certain types of personal behavior.

    I'm not sure how I can be any more clear.
     
  11. FoxHastings

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    By "encourage" do you mean encourage as in waterboarding or laws restricting rights and controlling women.....what do you consider "encouraging"....???
     
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    Or necessarily...if there wasn’t a life, how do you miss your life? It would be like me saying I miss the son I would have had if I had conceived three days earlier
     
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  13. Renee

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    Again.....For them life begins at conception and ends at birth!
     
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  14. Renee

    Renee Well-Known Member

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    Really? What about laws banning masturbation?
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Is preventing the slaughter of humans the same as masturbation?

    No, I do not believe it is. Should a woman be forced to get pregnant? Clearly she should not. Is she responsible for her own sexual activity? Generally she is. If she gets pregnant then what? If she allows the child to survive, in a lot of cases as the child grows up, the child is extremely grateful to the mother. Mothers day should not stand for getting an abortion.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    There is a crazy idea by Democrats that giving birth means the government now is in charge of the baby and must take care of it. Surely the argument can't be that a woman gives birth and dumps her baby at some persons home who has nothing to do with her giving birth. But the silly argument is that if one is anti abortion, they therefor must then collect baby clothing and food and care for the child. This is nonsense.
     
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  17. Dayton3

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    Sperm do not become humans. You do know that don't you?
     
  18. Renee

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    Let me guess...you don’t have a uterus. Let me guess, you won’t have to go through the pains of pregnancy and childbirth. Let me guess, you won’t have to raise a child for 18years.
    Saying a child is grateful for being born is talking about children, a zygote has no brain capacity and will never become a person.....
    A zygote is not the same as a person.
    You are the one who said the gov should control certain personal behaviors.....so why not tell males they shouldn’t waste their sperm and make masturbation illegal...after all they are destroying a potential person.
     
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    Exactly. Pro abortion rights people like to scream that "anti abortionists don't care about babies unless they support a seemingly endless array of federal programs to support a child throughout their life.".

    Which is patently ridiculous.
     
  20. Renee

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    Sure they do..if they meet an egg. Just one step earlier. A zygote is not a human
     
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    You won't either if you put a baby up for adoption. Don't know why this is so hard to understand.
     
  22. Renee

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    Why wouldn’t you want to support a child throughout its life if you want to deny the mother an abortion?
     
  23. Dayton3

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    At what point does it become one?
     
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    Responsibility of the mother and father.
     
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    IF, IF, IF.

    Statistically virtually no sperm produced ever fertilize an egg.
     

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