BZZZZT Wrong again! Food poisoning from unsanitary restaurants is a well known HAZARD to every day life. The poor dying because of a lack of affordable healthcare does happen in every day life. That you FALLACIOUSLY attempt to equate REALITY to a strawman is entirely your problem because you believe in the DEBUNKED puerile utopia of libertarianism.
It really is amazing how people with such inherent hate and suspicion towards entrepreneurs even bother paying for their services at all. In fact, it is rather disrespectful and highly selfish to think that the only reason the 5 star restaurant isn't putting rat poison in your soup is because the government was there and checked their kitchen. Why people with this kind of attitude towards private companies and zero knowledge of simple market mechanisms even stay in the US is beyond me. Absolutely amazing. <Mod Edit- Rule 2>
I think you are mistaking Libertarianism for Socialism <Mod Edit- Rule 2> There is nothing about Libertarianism that has ever been "debunked" because it is only a philosiophy that tells when it is acceptable to initiate force.
Aaaaaand exact that was the joke. Flippen heck. Are you all a bunch of Aspies or what? Ooooh, I am sure the guy who is wasting his millions on prostitutes and brags about it on PF cares. Yes. Very much. Totes.
Amazing how those who embrace the fallacy of libertarianism know absolutely nothing about it's history of abject failure when it was used to govern the United States. http://www.ushistory.org/gov/2b.asp Libertarian is a childish concept that utterly fails when it comes up against reality.
Libertarianism is not an idea about how to govern a country, but rather one about how not to govern a country. Frankly, America has never tried Libertarianism although the principles upon which the country was founded are very Libertarian. But, the last 100 years, no political hegemon in America gives two cents about the Bill of Rights. I will restrain from commenting since you yourself haven't even bothered reading about it yourself and only settled with a simple Google search and then use ctrl+a-ctrl+c-ctrl+v. If you want to appear educated and well-read the least you could do is put the text in your own words. The parts you have put in bold are pretty random and bland. You could at least have provided a summary with your own words so that I can grasp your points and address your arguments. As for now, your post lacks arguments and therefore there is nothing to address. PS. Wasn't Shay's Rebellion an uprising against high taxes? Well, if we look at the world as it stands today, the most Libertarian countries are Singapore, Hong Kong and Liechtenstein and all of these laissez-faire, micro-nations are doing pretty damn great.
You believe that a nation like Singapore that is ranked 97th when it comes to individual freedom and rights is "libertarian"? Hong Kong is under the communist Chinese government and has seen a downgrade of civil rights as a result. The only reason you even picked those nations was because they are business friendly irrespective of the fact that two out of the three don't actually give a crap about individual rights. But thanks for exposing the sheer vacuousness of your subject matter knowledge when it comes to libertarianism.
I've certainly seen that......especially the "childish" part Point out reality to them and they get like a child who hides under the blanket so the monster can't see them..,.
Then perhaps you would be willing to do away with thT REMAINING 10%....OR ARE THEY JUST AS PRECIOUS TO YOU?
Renee said: ↑ Actually 90% of abortions are in the first trimester....12 weeks .weighs less than an ounce and has no neural connections Whether she's willing or not has nothing to do with it.....she posted 90% of abortions...that means that the other 10% were also abortions...they have been "done away with" ...so what are you talking about? Sorry, that doesn't make any sense.....
There are no actual Libertarian countrie only some countries are more Libertarian than others. From a lens of economic freedom, Singapore is an extraordinary example what a ccountry can achieve when adapting one of coure-principles of Libertarianism (free market capitalism). Singapore is not exactly Iran, the respect for civil liberties is on a respectable level and in terms of civil security, the coutry outshines most. Hong Kong has alot of economic autonomy and accordingly have been able to grow to a prosperous place. Both are awesome places that even Westerners move to to enjoy life. I doubt you know anything about it at all.
Those 10% that you were so concerned about are usually done for severe reasons. I had a friend who’s baby would have been born with its brain outside its skull. It would have lived for a few minutes and died. She had to make the painful choice. But you want to deny her that.I have worked as a volunteer at an abortion clinic and have never in those years seen a woman getting a late term abortion for no reason.
It’s hard to respond to this because you take everything to extremes. It’s very hard having discussions with extremists
First of all, to share lame, emotional stories from your personal life is not an argument and even less is one of argumentum ad verecundiam ("I have worked with abortions, I know this!") The thing is that there obviously is a problem with abortion being used as a contraception because social norms incentivises whore-ishness with the glorification of casual sex and distortion of abortion from medicine to a "right".
You are right one personal emotional story does not make an argument. And your insult to women that we merely use a painful abortion as a means of contraception shows your contempt for women. Yes I think I’ll get pregnant and then I can pay a lot of money so I can go on a table endure the pain and the cramping...That’s because we are whores I had assumed you were an old guy but I checked when you told us to and I have yet to meet a 25-year-old who spews this kind of misogyny. I have some thoughts about why you have these issues but I will not share them
This is yet another silly argumentation strategy your kind likes to use - ignore the argument and just call your opponent a sexist. Where did I say that women merely use abortion as a contraceptive and where did I insult women? I thought it was pretty clear that I insulted society since I even wrote it out in clear words that it is societal norms that are to be blamed. Now, if you associate "whore-ish" with women and regard them as synonymous, that is your problem. I personally don't. Oh, please. I never said that women seek to have abortions because they think it is fun. I only tried pointing out that sexual liberalism has created structures that objectifies women and the rise of contraceotives makes this structure even stronger and abortion gives loose men and women a comfortable excuse to lean back on as a last resort. If you are questioning my age based on my opinions it only tells you are a very prejudiced person. Please, share with us your sublime psycho-analysis of my persona. I would love to hear it, but first I would like to guess what your evaluation is: [1] I don't get laid. [2] Someone hurt my feelings. [3] Something about my mother. (How mature and unique) Even if it is not one of these, I would love to hear you elaborate on why you think I have turned into a "misogyinist" and also share with us on what grounds you base diagnosing me as "misogynist". Surely, you must be an expert because you have volunteered as Jung's assistant, haven't you? PS. I am actually serious; go on and evaluate me.
Obviously I know a great deal more than you do since the core tenant of all libertarianism is PERSONAL AUTONOMY. Neither Singapore nor Hong Kong meet that criteria ergo they FAIL as examples of libertarianism. What YOU are advocating is DEREGULATED capitalism which is also a proven failure with multiple examples establishing that capitalism without regulation is an unmitigated disaster as far as national economies are concerned. So if we sum up your posts to date you have managed to strike out in pretty much every direction you have taken so far. Quitting while you are only this far behind would be a smart move IMO.
Free market capitalism cannot work without personal autonomy. Singapore and Hong Kong are highly regarded by the AnCap-community because of their respect for property rights, free market and for their small governments. Free market capitalism has never failed anywhere. Just look at your homecountry; it used to be an empty desert and with entrepreneurship it turned into the most prosperous country in the world within only a few decades.
Oh the IRONY of berating another member for "emotional stories" and then immediately posting emotive drivel about "whore-ishness" in your next paragraph! On the positive side it does expose the absurd fallacy of your claim to endorse libertarianism since PERSONAL AUTONOMY means that anyone and everyone should have the freedom to engage is whatever amount of sex gratifies their urges.
